Martin 10, "Schilke" blank mouthpiece

[bnbechtel]

So, I decided to get a Martin mouthpiece out of curiosity. There isn't much analysis or discussion of individual Martin mouthpieces to hunt down.

I was surprised by this mouthpiece. It's not deep; I would say it has a fairly standard depth similar to a C cup, but a different contour and slope where it enters the throat. What interests me is that I sound drastically different on this mouthpiece. Was it intended for a certain sound? I have difficulty not sounding breathy on it, and tire more quickly. My usual mouthpiece is a Bach 6, and I can get a full, rich tone on that. I noticed that the Martin 10 gets unusually thin toward the end of the shank, which I would guess means the backbore is quite large there. Also, the insertion mark shows up closer to the end than most of my mouthpieces, meaning it doesn't fit into the receiver as far. The mouthpiece is about 1 mm longer than my Bach 6. Of course, the Bach 6 has a much deeper cup, my Bach 7 has a much deeper cup. Roughly as deep as a 7C, but the tone is very different, as are the playing characteristics. For me, it's not a help with the upper register, but gets diffuse on higher notes. I'm persistent though and I'm interested in learning my way around it.

Anyone have experience with this design of the Martin 10 or able to help with explaining it? I'm really surprised that it's difficult to make a focused sound. I mean, it certainly is a sound, if that's what it is supposed to do, if it's a period piece, kind of soft and whispery.

I've tried it on several trumpets with similar effect -- maybe the sound has to do with the insertion depth?

Anyway, help me figure this Martin 10 out if you like, it certainly is different.

Best,
Brent

[atrumpeter]

If I had to guess I'd bet you solved it right here.

"I've tried it on several trumpets with similar effect -- maybe the sound has to do with the insertion depth?"

I have an old jet tone I ran across recently and it works great on my vintage horn but not as well on my Adams. So it could be related to the gap.
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