• FAQ  • Search  • Memberlist  • Usergroups   • Register   • Profile  • Log in to check your private messages  • Log in 

Conscious vs Subconscious Mind



 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    trumpetherald.com Forum Index -> Chicago School
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
dbacon
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 11 Nov 2001
Posts: 8592

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 12:34 am    Post subject: Conscious vs Subconscious Mind Reply with quote

DB

Last edited by dbacon on Sat Jun 18, 2022 5:01 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
stuartissimo
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 17 Dec 2021
Posts: 956
Location: Europe

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You really should make a dedicated site for these quotes.
_________________
1975 Olds Recording trumpet
1997 Getzen 700SP trumpet
1955 Olds Super cornet
1939 Buescher 280 flugelhorn
AR Resonance mouthpieces
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Halflip
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 09 Jan 2003
Posts: 1862
Location: WI

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stuartissimo wrote:
You really should make a dedicated site for these quotes.

Or at least put them all in one topic that you add to via editing over time.

By the way, Woody Allen once described a college course devoted to an examination of the conscious and subconscious mind, "with many tips on how to remain conscious".
_________________
"He that plays the King shall be welcome . . . " (Hamlet Act II, Scene 2, Line 1416)

"He had no concept of the instrument. He was blowing into it." -- Virgil Starkwell's cello teacher in "Take the Money and Run"
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
kehaulani
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Posts: 8965
Location: Hawai`i - Texas

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stuartissimo wrote:
You really should make a dedicated site for these quotes.

Concur.
_________________
"If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird

Yamaha 8310Z Bobby Shew trumpet
Benge 3X Trumpet
Getzen Capri Cornet
Adams F-1 Flghn
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Andy Cooper
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 15 Nov 2001
Posts: 1804
Location: Terre Haute, IN USA

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Playing a chromatic scale from g to g is a subroutine programmed into me by my 6th grade private teacher. Once called, it runs without me thinking about it.

To "call" the routine requires conscious thought - I have to recognize the pattern.

I experienced this in the past few years as my vision became worse - sight reading became a problem . I could not recognize patterns soon enough to "call" them in actual performance.

After cataract surgery, I've noticed that my ability to sight read is coming back. The subroutines were never lost - just the ability to consciously "call" them.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ENINCA
Veteran Member


Joined: 13 May 2005
Posts: 184
Location: California

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 11:08 am    Post subject: This is great Reply with quote

I love this quote, thanks. This has been on my mind lately because I find that, especially with fast, difficult passages, my mind is my worst enemy. I drill these difficult passages slowly over and over until the fingerings are in my muscle memory. And then, in performance, it's so hard for me not to think consciously "here comes that section" and then of course I fumble it. It drives me nuts. It's like I have to train myself to think about baseball or something, since I've learned how to do that in other pursuits.
_________________
"Some days you get up and put the horn to your chops and it sounds pretty good and you win. Some days you try and nothing works and the horn wins. This goes on and on and then you die and the horn wins." -Dizzy Gillespie
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
cheiden
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 28 Sep 2004
Posts: 8910
Location: Orange County, CA

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Halflip wrote:
By the way, Woody Allen once described a college course devoted to an examination of the conscious and subconscious mind, "with many tips on how to remain conscious".

One of my favorite WA quotes..."I was thrown out of NYU my freshman year for cheating on my metaphysics final, you know. I looked within the soul of the boy sitting next to me."
_________________
"I'm an engineer, which means I think I know a whole bunch of stuff I really don't."
Charles J Heiden/So Cal
Bach Strad 180ML43*/43 Bb/Yamaha 731 Flugel/Benge 1X C/Kanstul 920 Picc/Conn 80A Cornet
Bach 3C rim on 1.5C underpart
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
kehaulani
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Posts: 8965
Location: Hawai`i - Texas

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheiden.
_________________
"If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird

Yamaha 8310Z Bobby Shew trumpet
Benge 3X Trumpet
Getzen Capri Cornet
Adams F-1 Flghn
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
markp
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 15 Feb 2005
Posts: 2814
Location: Coarsegold, CA

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You’ve heard about the centipede who never had any trouble coordinating his 1,000 legs, until someone asked him how he managed such a feat.

He thought about it, and was never able to walk again.

William Adam and his students try to vividly visualize, or hear, the ideal sound that they want before they play. Then, they follow a short list of things they must do:

Breathe correctly
Accelerate the air
Relax and don’t let tension creep in
Blow straight out, not up or down

Then, repeat for hours and hours, days and days, years and years.

I apologize if I’m not articulating this exactly as they would, but I think that’s pretty close.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    trumpetherald.com Forum Index -> Chicago School All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group