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Kennyg2019
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 11:19 am    Post subject: Brightest Shires Trumpet? Reply with quote

Hi,

I have a Schilke B3.

Is there a Shires trumpet that is similar...or even brighter?

Thanks,

Ken
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The CVLA medium bore is the brightest, and maybe the BLW being a close (but different) second, depending on the type of sound you’re looking for.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hack001 wrote:
The CVLA medium bore is the brightest, and maybe the BLW being a close (but different) second, depending on the type of sound you’re looking for.


Thanks! I'm looking for a bright, focused sound for playing descants with my church choir.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome! What are you looking to improve on or change compared to your Schilke? In a church setting you may not want to go "too" bright because the sound can get a little strident. The CVLAs and model Bs are on the "commercial" side of things with Shires -- pretty bright and cutting.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Thanks! I'm looking for a bright, focused sound for playing descants with my church choir."

Get a C trumpet, This would be perfect!

https://www.trumpetherald.com/marketplace.php?task=detail&id=135020&s=Schilke-C7--quot-C-quot--SN--3949--Circa-1969-
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks but I’m a comeback player who’s only played Bb trumpets. Not sure if I could handle the intonation quirks etc of a C trumpet!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kennyg2019 wrote:
Thanks but I’m a comeback player who’s only played Bb trumpets. Not sure if I could handle the intonation quirks etc of a C trumpet!


The Shires C trumpets aren't very quirky at all. Try something with a 5 bell and I think you'd be very happy.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

trumpjosh wrote:
Kennyg2019 wrote:
Thanks but I’m a comeback player who’s only played Bb trumpets. Not sure if I could handle the intonation quirks etc of a C trumpet!


The Shires C trumpets aren't very quirky at all. Try something with a 5 bell and I think you'd be very happy.


I agree!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But aren't C trumpets more difficult to play...have more resistance, etc?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kennyg2019 wrote:
But aren't C trumpets more difficult to play...have more resistance, etc?


The Schilke medium bore C's (C6 and C7) are particularly friendly. You already play a Schilke, you don't need an orchestral C (Bach and Shires). The C3 or C5 ( Large bores) would be very close in resistance to your B3 with the advantage of Schilke intonation.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shires Doc Severinsen with a shallow Mouthpiece is crazy bright.
It's a great horn.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haven't necessarily tried the entire line but I felt like the Severinsen Destino was just about the brightest horn I've played. Worth a look.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ed Kennedy wrote:
Kennyg2019 wrote:
But aren't C trumpets more difficult to play...have more resistance, etc?


The Schilke medium bore C's (C6 and C7) are particularly friendly. You already play a Schilke, you don't need an orchestral C (Bach and Shires). The C3 or C5 ( Large bores) would be very close in resistance to your B3 with the advantage of Schilke intonation.

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Really? Wow...I just assumed they were all beasts to play.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Divitt Trumpets wrote:
Shires Doc Severinsen with a shallow Mouthpiece is crazy bright.
It's a great horn.

I can't use shallow mouthpieces (I bottom out). How about with a GR 3MX or a Reeves 43C?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The CLW is exciting when pushed. Very efficient. Maybe someone from shires will give their perspective.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It really depends what you want, and what you're trying to improve on with your Schilke -- which is also a great horn!

I suppose I should fully disclose that I do in fact work at Shires, and have been playtesting their horns since 2017. Every trumpet that has left that building since, I have inspected, played, and adjusted if needed. I've played every model they've made and have about a good idea as any about how they compare to each other and other manufacturer's offerings.

So... ask away I suppose!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aren't all the Shire trumpets bright?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 8:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Brightest Shires Trumpet? Reply with quote

Kennyg2019 wrote:
Hi,

I have a Schilke B3.

Is there a Shires trumpet that is similar...or even brighter?

Thanks,

Ken


If I am not mistaken S. E. Shires is having an open house event this summer. Your profile says you are in NY; Shires is about twenty miles west of Boston. Maybe make a trip over to play test some horns?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2022 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

puzzleheadedcow wrote:
Aren't all the Shire trumpets bright?


Not all, for sure. We don't have any massively "heavy" horns per se, but models like the AHW and 401 are heavier (darker? weightier?) than say a standard Bach or Yamaha.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2022 10:54 am    Post subject: Re: Brightest Shires Trumpet? Reply with quote

“If I am not mistaken S. E. Shires is having an open house event this summer. Your profile says you are in NY; Shires is about twenty miles west of Boston. Maybe make a trip over to play test some horns?”

I may look into that. Thanks!
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