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chapahi
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 6:53 am    Post subject: Benge 6X Reply with quote

Can anyone tell me about the Benge 6X or Kanstul Burbank 6X trumpet. Is it versatile? Thanks in advance for any replies.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's as veritile as you are.

It's a large bore instrument from the LA era, with perhaps a handful made earlier in Burbank.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My grandson saw this post and asked, "what's a 6X"? I told him that it's 1 louder than a 5X! Thank you Spinal Tap!

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ny that logic..."It goes to seven".
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Benge 6X mandrel was the large bore design dating back to the Chicago days. The bell is a little bit bigger than the 3X by physical volume and has a darker, more symphonic sound. Great all-around horns, but still a lightweight "west coast" style build. The CG model has a 6X bell with the famous .464" choke at the bell tail. A regular 6X should be .468" through the valves and bell tail, but it has the standard Benge leadpipe.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, the Benge 6X is versatile and great horn. I had one years ago that I used for everything from big band lead to wind ensemble in military bands and even in a local orchestra. I wish I had kept that horn, it did it all. I now have a 1975 Benge 6X in excellent shape, it’s a time capsule and has been blueprinted. However, I’m getting ready for grad school as a trumpet performance major and need different equipment, I put a down payment on a Thane Performance and will need more $ when it’s done. So, the Benge will be up for sale soon.

If you have a chance, try one.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a bunch of horns, but I keep a 6 in the stable for doing rock gigs because it can back off and be mellow when needed, but can scream if you can fill it up. I've used it in the past for 'legit' gigs by just backing off and letting the sound calm down and darken up. Also (when I was younger) played CC's that could part your hair. Very flexible horn if you can fill it up. Still trying to find someone who will do a tuning-bell conversion on it for me. (Landress said he could, but then ghosted me).
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2022 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dershem wrote:
I have a bunch of horns, but I keep a 6 in the stable for doing rock gigs because it can back off and be mellow when needed, but can scream if you can fill it up. I've used it in the past for 'legit' gigs by just backing off and letting the sound calm down and darken up. Also (when I was younger) played CC's that could part your hair. Very flexible horn if you can fill it up. Still trying to find someone who will do a tuning-bell conversion on it for me. (Landress said he could, but then ghosted me).


Mike Del Quadro could for you.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dershem wrote:
I have a bunch of horns, but I keep a 6 in the stable for doing rock gigs because it can back off and be mellow when needed, but can scream if you can fill it up. I've used it in the past for 'legit' gigs by just backing off and letting the sound calm down and darken up. Also (when I was younger) played CC's that could part your hair. Very flexible horn if you can fill it up. Still trying to find someone who will do a tuning-bell conversion on it for me. (Landress said he could, but then ghosted me).


dershem, I once had a conversation with Zig Kanstul that included something about tuning bell conversions. The only bit I remember is that he never found success converting a Benge trumpet to a tuning bell design. He didn't know why. He just said they didn't respond well to that modification.

Take that for what it's worth.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon Arnold wrote:
dershem wrote:
I have a bunch of horns, but I keep a 6 in the stable for doing rock gigs because it can back off and be mellow when needed, but can scream if you can fill it up. I've used it in the past for 'legit' gigs by just backing off and letting the sound calm down and darken up. Also (when I was younger) played CC's that could part your hair. Very flexible horn if you can fill it up. Still trying to find someone who will do a tuning-bell conversion on it for me. (Landress said he could, but then ghosted me).


Mike Del Quadro could for you.


Mike said he was busy and referred me to Landress. :/
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about Jim Becker at Osmun?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dershem wrote:
Jon Arnold wrote:
dershem wrote:
I have a bunch of horns, but I keep a 6 in the stable for doing rock gigs because it can back off and be mellow when needed, but can scream if you can fill it up. I've used it in the past for 'legit' gigs by just backing off and letting the sound calm down and darken up. Also (when I was younger) played CC's that could part your hair. Very flexible horn if you can fill it up. Still trying to find someone who will do a tuning-bell conversion on it for me. (Landress said he could, but then ghosted me).


Mike Del Quadro could for you.


Mike said he was busy and referred me to Landress. :/


Sorry to hear that. Charlie Melk, Jim Becker are also more than capable to help.
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