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veum Veteran Member
Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 151 Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 8:58 am Post subject: Conn Trumpets for the Military |
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I had heard years ago that instruments built for US military bands could have slightly different specs. I read that Gerry Mulligan used to have an old Conn bari sax that had heavier plating that standard production models. Anyone heard anything about this for trumpets?
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benlewis Heavyweight Member
Joined: 21 Jan 2004 Posts: 1009 Location: Memphis, TN
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 11:30 am Post subject: |
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Not sure about Conns; but when I first joined the Navy in the early 1980s, we had 3 and 4-valve Getzen flügelhorns with small-bore trombone flare bells that I was told was a custom order. Probably during the first half of the last century, they bought directly from the manufacturers. Now the service bands buy from GSA-approved vendors such as Chuck Levins.
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Subtropical and Subpar Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 11:35 am Post subject: |
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There's a bit in Contempora Corner how some of Reynolds' trumpets made under military contract during WWII had slightly larger bells than their other trumpets. https://contemporacorner.com/trumpets/reynolds-trumpets/ _________________ 1936 King Liberty No. 2
1958 Reynolds Contempora 44-M "Renascence" C
1958 Olds Ambassador
1962 Reynolds Argenta LB
1965 Conn Connstellation 38A cornet
1995 Bach LR18072
2003 Kanstul 991
2011 Schilke P5-4 B/G
2021 Manchester Brass flugel |
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RETrumpet Veteran Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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There's the Olds Military Model with the hammered bell. _________________ Bb: FrankenBach, '72 Committee, Conn 22B, King 2070SGX
C: Bach 229-MK slide/pipe, Bach 226 with YTR-9445(2) pipe
D/Eb: Bach 239 with YTR-9636 pipe
Picc: Stomvi Master, Couesnon Monopole
Cornet: Schilke A2C, '23 Buescher
Flugel: Scodwell Prototype
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delano Heavyweight Member
Joined: 18 Jan 2009 Posts: 3118 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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They made the Conn 81A cornets for the USA navy special with coprion bells. |
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nieuwguyski Heavyweight Member
Joined: 06 Feb 2002 Posts: 2346 Location: Santa Cruz County, CA
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Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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benlewis wrote: | Not sure about Conns; but when I first joined the Navy in the early 1980s, we had 3 and 4-valve Getzen flügelhorns with small-bore trombone flare bells that I was told was a custom order. |
How would you detect the difference? My small-bore tenor trombone mutes have fit in every flugel I've owned, from the smaller-throated Bach Strad to the blunderbuss Calicchio Copper. Was the final diameter trombone size (7" or larger)? _________________ J. Notso Nieuwguyski |
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hose Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2022 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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Many years ago I apprenticed with a well known boutique trumpet manufacturer. They obtained a contract for six Bb trumpets from a military base (not one of the DC bands). My recollection is there were numerous pages of bureaucratic specs some of which had little or nothing to do with construction of a trumpet. The specs that did include actual trumpet building were bizarre for practical use right down to the plating and bracing. It resembled a design by a committee of players, all with their own opinion of what belongs in a pro trumpet. Money was no object. In fact, it seemed the more the cost, the better. The personification of an out of hand government project. _________________ Dave Wisner
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