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cbtj51
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 2:21 pm    Post subject: Renewed search for a replacement Mendez. Reply with quote

I have been searching for a replacement for my long lost (Hurricane Betsy 1965) LA Mendez that my Dad purchased from a New Orleans pawn shop and presented to me as my first trumpet in 1959. I have auditioned a few over the years and walked away disappointed for one reason or another. At 71 years old, time is running out and I know that there are a limited number of candidates remaining as time goes by!

A retired Air Force General friend has graciously allowed me to evaluate the Fullerton Mendez that his mom bought for him in 1954-55 for the next couple of weeks, but has reiterated that it is not for sale (sigh...). He has been an excellent steward!!! It is, in fact a pristine original example of the model that my initial research revealed was manufactured very early in the Fullerton period before August 1955. The original lacquer has a very beautiful and desirable darker patina and is at least 95% intact, only micro scratches, no dents or evidence of past repair. The valves are matching #s and in beautiful condition with good compression from my limited testing. I have played it for a 1 1/2 hour practice session yesterday after my morning church gig. I played it during a much longer session today along with my own 1971 Benge 5x for comparison. I was amazed at how familiar it (the Mendez) felt in my hand after more than a half century of not holding one for very long. I can also see how the Mendez would influence my eventual taste in trumpets going forward. I plan to play it a lot while I can and will compare other Bb trumpets that I have.



I came away from these initial experiences thinking a lot about my Dad and his decision to purchase my original LA Mendez when I was still a child. I will continue to search for a Mendez to replace my old one if, for no other reason than sentimental, but have now come to realize that there may not be any to compare to this wonderful example currently on loan to me! In retrospect, I am blessed to have once owned a Mendez and equally honored to be able to play my friend's horn if only for a few weeks and I get to spend lots of time with my Dad in my mind while I play!

Life is Short, find the Joy in it!

Mike
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beautiful horn, wonderful memories.

I hope you find one to your liking.
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Dayton
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good luck on your hunt! Just FYI, there are four Olds Mendez trumpets for sale on Reverb right now, including a 1967 model.
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cbtj51
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Croquethed!

If there is a Mendez in my future, Great! If not, for the moment I am playing a Great one!

Thanks for the heads up Dayton, headed that way now!

Life is Short, find the Joy in it!

Mike
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‘92 Bach 37 Bb
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are a few on Facebook Marketplace as well. I have had some good luck finding deals there, if you don't mind dealing with sellers through Facebook. I picked up a mint 64 Recording for $800 which I can't stop playing:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1282807739129081
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/678621253378290/
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/810378160133948/
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/354292733550488/
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cbtj51
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jeirvine wrote:
There are a few on Facebook Marketplace as well.


Thank you very much for the direction. I am not much of a social media person, so I had not even thought about FB as a resource!

Life is Short, find the Joy in it!

Mike
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'72 LA Benge D/Eb
'76 Bach CL 229/25A C
‘92 Bach 37 Bb
'98 Getzen 895S Flugelhorn
'00 Bach 184 Cornet
'02 Yamaha 8335RGS
'16 Bach NY 7
'16 XO 1700RS Piccolo
Reeves 41 Rimmed Mouthpieces
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Uberopa
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trent Austin at Austin Custom Brass has one listed on his website. He is well known as a straight shooter on this site. You can buy with confidence. Disclaimer: I have no connection with ACB.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are a few on eBay as well. Probably not returnable if the horn doesn't click, but if you get a good enough deal...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/195274547311?hash=item2d7745206
https://www.ebay.com/itm/314099114553?hash=item4921c42239
https://www.ebay.com/itm/224990192376?hash=item346275e2f8
https://www.ebay.com/itm/353961366444?hash=item5269bdd3ac

And there's a TrumpetHerald thread with a list of online shops you could browse:
https://www.trumpetherald.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=77366&start=160
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1932 King Silvertone Artist Bore
1945 Buescher 400
1946 Olds Super
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1948 Couesnon flugelhorn
1951 Olds Special
1956 Martin Committee
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1996 Bach 37
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huntman10
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That last eBay listing has the plastic spring barrel (as I recall, it was Ryton, a very tough and machinable polycarbonate that I once specified for some very large industrial power plant damper bushings for elevated temperatures in corrosive service). While it is a very tough and precise material, I have always been a bit cautious as an Olds collector, as those parts may not be easily repaired, plus in the period they were used (at the very end of the Fullerton era, before the closing of production, quality control was lacking. Just sayin'!
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cbtj51
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

huntman10 wrote:
... I have always been a bit cautious ... (at the very end of the Fullerton era, before the closing of production, quality control was lacking. Just sayin'!


Thank you for that huntman10!

I have walked away from a lot of them over the last several decades for many reasons and production period has been one of the criteria. My focus has mostly been on the LA production, but I have been disappointed by condition and stymied by rarity! After playing my friend's early Fullerton (I wouldn't sell it either if it were mine!!!), I have become more open to at least the earlier period, maybe until 1960. I tried out a few real dogs from the later Fullerton years and that left a bad impression. Mechanical function is a bigger draw than cosmetics for me, but I wouldn't mind getting both!

Maybe someday...

Life is Short, find the Joy in it!

Mike
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'72 LA Benge D/Eb
'76 Bach CL 229/25A C
‘92 Bach 37 Bb
'98 Getzen 895S Flugelhorn
'00 Bach 184 Cornet
'02 Yamaha 8335RGS
'16 Bach NY 7
'16 XO 1700RS Piccolo
Reeves 41 Rimmed Mouthpieces
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