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ThatDude Veteran Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:20 am Post subject: Laskey S cup vs * cup |
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So I know the early shallow S cups were labeled * cups, but were there any differences between the mouthpiece generations?
What about between the script and typed font?
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ThatDude Veteran Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2022 11:20 am Post subject: |
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AndyDavids Veteran Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 11:24 am Post subject: |
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Just seeing this...but sorry, can't help with the S vs * cups. but I used to have two 65's (MD I think?) one plain, one script and felt different to me. |
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adagiotrumpet Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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I have both, an 80S and an 80*. Two very different mouthpieces. I can't speak to the throat and backbores as far as any technical comparison, but the the cup on the * is considerably shallower than the S cup. |
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chase1973 Veteran Member
Joined: 19 Nov 2018 Posts: 126 Location: Valdosta
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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Scott's * (star cup) was designed when he was still at Schilke-it's more bowl in shape rather than the stock (not custom) A cups, i.e. the walls are straight down as opposed to slopping into the bottom which in turn aids against bottoming out when the chops swell and hit the bottom of the cup and cease vibrating. The reason Scott stopped using the * label was his CNC wouldn't register the * symbol, so he had to just label them as ES.
Scott's earlier pieces from like '99-'00 were shorter in length and had slightly more "mass." Around 2005 he went back to the blank he used at Schilke for his custom pieces. |
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adagiotrumpet Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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chase1973 wrote: | Scott's * (star cup) was designed when he was still at Schilke-it's more bowl in shape rather than the stock (not custom) A cups, i.e. the walls are straight down as opposed to slopping into the bottom which in turn aids against bottoming out when the chops swell and hit the bottom of the cup and cease vibrating. The reason Scott stopped using the * label was his CNC wouldn't register the * symbol, so he had to just label them as ES.
Scott's earlier pieces from like '99-'00 were shorter in length and had slightly more "mass." Around 2005 he went back to the blank he used at Schilke for his custom pieces. |
Trying to get technical info on Laskey mouthpieces has been quite a challenge. I am not aware of any designation of an A cup. (Is this in reference to the Schilke A cup?) Other than my own observations of the pieces I own, I cannot find any specific technical info about the mouthpieces I own, such as whether a C cup is supposed to be deeper than a D cup, ala Bach mouthpieces, or vice versa. Factor in the fact that Laskey also has an MC cup and MD cup and trying to figure out what works best can get very expensive, which by the way, it already has. And this doesn't even address unmarked throats and backbores. I really like the Laskey mouthpieces I currently play on, but it would be really helpful to know how one compares to the other from a technical aspect. |
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chase1973 Veteran Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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I know on Scott's "stock" pieces, all models had a #27 throat and his 1172 backbore-it was a combination of his 11L (similar to the older Schilke "a" backbore, and his 72, which was based off of a Bach design I think)-all of his rims/cup shapes were based off of Bud Herseth's NY Bach custom 1c rim from the early 1950's. |
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