Fantastic Solo on an Ignored Post

agroovin48

There was a post that disappeared rapidly with no responses expect mine. It was a post announcing the 2023 Chosen Vale schedule under the Orchestral/Chamber Music/Solo forum index. The Chosen Vale website has a video of the 2012 solo of Peter Evans. It is an absolutely fantastic display of technique and endurance. While the musical composition is modernistic, it never the less is very complicated, long and extremely difficult for even the most accomplished artist to perform. Think Harry James playing Flight of the Bumblebee, but exponentially more difficult and complicated. I highly encourage those interested in exemplary trumpet performance to view this solo. It can be found at the Chosen Vale website at this link:

https://chosenvale.org/
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kehaulani · Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:04 am Post subject:

That trumpet player's not human. And from memory!?

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Richard III · Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:07 am Post subject:

You have not been ignored. I went to the site and watched many of the videos, including the one you mentioned. I recognize the expertise involved, but did not find the music pleasing.
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Subtropical and Subpar · Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:24 am Post subject:

That performance is also on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lsdjIddh5Y

I knew Peter way back in the day. Putting aside the extended techniques, which I do not recall him deploying, he more or less had that level of endurance, improv, theory, and imagination before he could drive. I don't fully understand where - or how - he developed such skills, but much like Nakariakov those skills were well-honed and established by his mid-teens.
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Shaft · Heavyweight Member Joined: 19 Sep 2006 Posts: 985

356 views in 48 hours is not bad.

Also considering the work week just started.

Thats 10% of the 3600 views that youtube link from 9-10 yrs ago has.

First time I’ve heard a piccolo do all of that.
Circular breathing through so much too.

Thanks for sharing the great music!

Subtropical and Subpar · Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2022 1:49 pm Post subject:

Shaft · Heavyweight Member Joined: 19 Sep 2006 Posts: 985

Its a good discussion to have for any musician.

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Shaft · Heavyweight Member Joined: 19 Sep 2006 Posts: 985

883k views also 9 years ago…..

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https://youtu.be/1ZG9U1HxNds

mhenrikse · Veteran Member Joined: 21 Jul 2009 Posts: 162

I also went to the Chosen Vale website, listened to videos and read some stuff about it. I enjoyed everything about the Henze, with Hwu Morgan.

Rapier232 · Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:53 pm Post subject:

Listened to it for a couple of minutes and could take no more. Very skilled but if I was at a concert and someone played that I’d leave.
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Destructo · Veteran Member Joined: 18 Apr 2022 Posts: 173

Just for clarity, this is an improvisation by the performer. Not a scored composition.

Rapier232 · Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2022 3:22 am Post subject:

kehaulani · Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2022 5:50 am Post subject:

Music is arbitrary. It can be pleasing, exciting, stimulating, relaxing, cerebral. It depends on your frame of reference and the mood you're in at the time. Notice rapier did not diss either the player or the music. He expressed the effect of the music on him. BIG difference.
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Vin DiBona · Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2022 6:54 am Post subject:

His playing is extraordinary.
That said, I am not a fan of any kind of avant-garde "music". To me, it is noise with no purpose.
I'd leave the performance wondering what was the purpose of what he played.
One and done?
To the OP, sometimes silence is golden.

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btomcik · Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:03 am Post subject:

Rapier232 · Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:06 am Post subject:

To paraphrase a famous trumpeter, "If I could play like that, I wouldn’t."

Skilled, absolutely and without doubt better than I will ever be, just not my taste.

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JayV · Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2022 8:59 am Post subject:

Check out this recording of Peter playing "Abyss and Caress" by Lucia Długoszewski. She also wrote "Space is a Diamond," famously recorded by Gerard Schwarz.

https://www1.wdr.de/mediathek/audio/wdr3/konzert/audio-musik-der-zeit----schwebezustand-100.html

That piece starts around 1:35 at that link.

"Space is a Diamond" is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTwfyDd4wJI

Even if you don't enjoy this type of music, or it doesn't speak to you, it's still kinda cool to hear what is possible with these metal tubes we all play.

kehaulani · Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:16 am Post subject:

That is not bad music. One may not enjoy it but there is a lot to chew on. One can understand it and still not like it, and I'm not implying that just because someone doesn't like it means that they don't understand it. But often, that is the case.

I have a BM and MM from UNT in Composition and did most of my work when aleatoric, chance, atonal, serial etc. music was all the rage. I am very familiar with what he is doing and he's superb. I understand why there are those who do not enjoy listening to this but that is a reflection of the listeners' taste, not on the quality of the music.
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