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Robert P
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 Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 1:42 am Post subject: Recommendation for rattle can lacquer? |
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My old Bundy is in pieces, had some dents taken out of it. It's been stripped to bare brass. I'm going to solder it back together and want to coat it but not going to spend money to send it out to have it relacquered...it's a Bundy. It has sentimental value to me but I imagine in factory-new condition it probably wouldn't fetch $150.
Is there a rattle-can lacquer that you're aware of that does a decent job - i.e. that will hold up to being handled once cured?
As an aside, I've seen silver-plated Bundys advertised on eBay in the past - did they ever actually come that way from the factory or did someone just spend ridiculous money to have a Bundy silver plated?
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Robert P
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Thanks - you've used this and have been happy with the results?
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I think the Nikolas is what more repair shops, including the one in the retail store I worked at.
Don't get your hopes up too high with any rattle can spray.
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Robert P
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| Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 2:07 am Post subject: |
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| Crazy Finn wrote: | I think the Nikolas is what more repair shops, including the one in the retail store I worked at.
Don't get your hopes up too high with any rattle can spray. |
Thanks - if it protects the metal from oxygen and holds up to normal handling that's what I care about. In the case of this Bundy nuances of how it might subtly impact the sound are likely a moot point - lol.
It's also possible I might get set up for genuine lacquer spraying.
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Robert P
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| Divitt Trumpets wrote: | | Robert P wrote: |
Thanks - you've used this and have been happy with the results? |
I don't do lacquer touch ups in my shop, but everyone who uses rattle cans uses that. |
Thanks!
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| Crazy Finn wrote: | I think the Nikolas is what more repair shops, including the one in the retail store I worked at.
Don't get your hopes up too high with any rattle can spray. |
| Robert P wrote: | Thanks - if it protects the metal from oxygen and holds up to normal handling that's what I care about. In the case of this Bundy nuances of how it might subtly impact the sound are likely a moot point - lol.
It's also possible I might get set up for genuine lacquer spraying. |
I should have elaborated. It just doesn't last very long. It looks fine, but I've found the spots that got the rattle can lacquer lasted between 2 weeks and a month and change.
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| Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Crazy Finn wrote: | | Crazy Finn wrote: | I think the Nikolas is what more repair shops, including the one in the retail store I worked at.
Don't get your hopes up too high with any rattle can spray. |
| Robert P wrote: | Thanks - if it protects the metal from oxygen and holds up to normal handling that's what I care about. In the case of this Bundy nuances of how it might subtly impact the sound are likely a moot point - lol.
It's also possible I might get set up for genuine lacquer spraying. |
I should have elaborated. It just doesn't last very long. It looks fine, but I've found the spots that got the rattle can lacquer lasted between 2 weeks and a month and change. |
I have horns with multiple coats of properly applied Nikolas that were touched-up many, many years ago.
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Crazy Finn
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| Crazy Finn wrote: | I think the Nikolas is what more repair shops, including the one in the retail store I worked at.
Don't get your hopes up too high with any rattle can spray. |
| Robert P wrote: | Thanks - if it protects the metal from oxygen and holds up to normal handling that's what I care about. In the case of this Bundy nuances of how it might subtly impact the sound are likely a moot point - lol.
It's also possible I might get set up for genuine lacquer spraying. |
| Crazy Finn wrote: | | I should have elaborated. It just doesn't last very long. It looks fine, but I've found the spots that got the rattle can lacquer lasted between 2 weeks and a month and change. |
| OldSchoolEuph wrote: | | I have horns with multiple coats of properly applied Nikolas that were touched-up many, many years ago. |
Huh. Good to know.
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Robert P
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| Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 12:38 am Post subject: |
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| Crazy Finn wrote: |
I should have elaborated. It just doesn't last very long. It looks fine, but I've found the spots that got the rattle can lacquer lasted between 2 weeks and a month and change. |
When you say it doesn't last what happens? Does it peel away? Maybe the prep was inadequate?
When it cures does it feel substantially different than factory lacquer? It's hard to envision that a product would keep being sold if it was junk.
Maybe I'll have to gamble a few $$ and give it a try.
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| Robert P wrote: | | Crazy Finn wrote: |
I should have elaborated. It just doesn't last very long. It looks fine, but I've found the spots that got the rattle can lacquer lasted between 2 weeks and a month and change. |
When you say it doesn't last what happens? Does it peel away? Maybe the prep was inadequate?
When it cures does it feel substantially different than factory lacquer? It's hard to envision that a product would keep being sold if it was junk.
Maybe I'll have to gamble a few $$ and give it a try. |
It just wore off. I don't recall peeling or flaking, it just was raw brass again.
It was a third slide ring and a 2nd slide, as I recall, on an old Selmer Radial. I don't know what the prep was, my buddy in the repair shop did the work.
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Robert P
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| Divitt Trumpets wrote: | | Robert P wrote: |
Thanks - you've used this and have been happy with the results? |
I don't do lacquer touch ups in my shop, but everyone who uses rattle cans uses that. |
Dang - every place I find that sells it charges about as much for shipping as for the can of lacquer.
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