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kurth83 Regular Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2023 7:49 pm Post subject: Schilke cx4 |
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Got one from WWBW to try, was hoping to love it.
EDIT: I did eventually learn to love it, see below.
I never thought I would find a horn that was "too open", given I love my CG Selmer which feels slightly tight to me, but I think this one may qualify, I'm kinda bummed. It is an amazing horn though, sounds almost like a Bb, even a slightly cornetish sound when played with a deep cup. Amazingly responsive with a huge sound from whisper soft to super loud, and so easy to go loud, just sigh into the horn. It's slightly looser slotting makes it a breeze to play in tune for those like me who like that kind of horn. Sadly it seems to impact my endurance. I find the same thing on too small a horn too, if I am fighting to get enough air through it. Too bad it seems to be too much horn for me. I think I'll try the CX next or maybe a C3 (being one or two sizes down from the CX4).
Anybody else have experience with any of those horns?
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mr oakmount Veteran Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2023 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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Before you send your CX4 back, any chance you can try it with a heavier mouthpiece (e.g. Denis Wick Ultra 5c) or with a mouthpiece weight (e.g. JK adjusting sleeve) or with a smaller backbore? It helped me with one of my horns that sounds great but felt too open and too hard to control. |
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kurth83 Regular Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:47 am Post subject: |
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I seem to be growing into it. So I will likely keep it. It may be the finest "big" C I have ever played so really hard to give it up. I just can't get over the amazing sound, and how easy it is to do stuff on it. I think it will be preferred over my S22CHD now (and my Shires 4f), both of which are also amazing horns.
I ordered an X4 to go with it... |
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kurth83 Regular Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry to keep reawakening this thread.
For fun I took this thing into my symphonic band rehearsal - 2 hours of blowing my brains out (ok we do it musically, but not like an orchestra where you actually have rests).
I ended up with more endurance than I had with my Shires AF which previously was the most open and loudest horn I owned and my goto for concert band, big surprise!
Best I can guess is I didn't have to work as hard to get the same volume.
My bandmates said my volume was the same (yes cuz I was playing the same volume deliberately, basically working less hard to do it), and I had extra volume to call on when I needed it. They said my tone was richer and fuller too.
Yeah, home run.
So the horn gets 5 stars, two thumbs up, etc. Gets a huge symphonic tone with a symphonic mouthpiece. Interestingly, it's sibling the X4 is often used as a lead horn with shallow mouthpieces, so these horns (CX4 and X4) respond very well to mouthpieces and different playing styles.
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shofarguy Heavyweight Member
Joined: 18 Sep 2007 Posts: 7010 Location: AZ
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Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:59 am Post subject: |
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You've discovered the secret to large bore, large blow horns. Play them with better breath support and less force.
I had an X4 for a short time and loved it, eventually. I had to sell it some time back. It was a great trumpet for big band and other stuff requiring confident playing. It wasn't a faint hearted trumpet, by any means! _________________ Brian A. Douglas
Flip Oakes Wild Thing Bb Trumpet in copper
Flip Oakes Wild Thing Flugelhorn in copper
There is one reason that I practice: to be ready at the downbeat when the final trumpet sounds. |
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