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gtr1023
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2023 4:37 am    Post subject: Conn 36B Reply with quote

Hey there!

I have an opportunity to purchase a 1970 Conn 36B that is in good condition. I'm looking to use it for jazz/lead playing.

Would this be a good investment for under $1000 or should I look for something else?

What are your thoughts?

Thank you!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2023 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It all depends on YOU. What do you play now, what do you want different from what you now have, how many different horns have you played and what your general preferences are in regards to tone, resistance, feel, etc.?

The 36B has a fine reputation and has been played by professionals of high regard in the past. However, it is a slightly different feeling horn than most modern trumpets.

I had a friend who played one in our church group and he had a sound to die for and played it very well. Years later I bought one and was relatively unimpressed with how the horn played, felt, blew, whatever you want to call it, it just did not seem to work for me.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2023 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good price, good horn, good luck.
I think you may need a little time adjusting to how it blows, so don't jump to conclusions. You may need to give it a little time.

Also, know that it's a wide-wrap horn so, you may need to adjust to the feeling.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2023 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Conn 36B Connstellation sure worked well for Brian MacDonald (USAF Airmen Of Note) while his split-lead partner, Kevin Burns, played the Conn 8B Artist. This should erase any doubts about the 36B's capabilities.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2023 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

plankowner110 wrote:
The Conn 36B Connstellation sure worked well for Brian MacDonald (USAF Airmen Of Note) while his split-lead partner, Kevin Burns, played the Conn 8B Artist. This should erase any doubts about the 36B's capabilities.


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Wow that was great thanks for sharing! Love the Conn .438 horns.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great tune...great band...great trumpets
but would someone please kill the sound man
One trumpet a bit to loud mixed-the other a bit to silent

Oh-and about the 36B Connstellation:Good Deal-when in good shape
Only downside-it was labeled as "lightweight"Connstellation....which was maybe a bad joke,it's about the same weight as any Connstellation...good but heavy
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Johnny-Highnote wrote:
Only downside-it was labeled as "Lightweight" Connstellation....which was maybe a bad joke,it's about the same weight as any Connstellation...good but heavy.

I learned the hard way that the term "Lightweight" refers to a horn's weight only in comparison to its big brother. I.e. A Bach Commercial "Lightweight" is light-er than a 180-37 but is not lightweight, in and of itself, like a Yamaha Shew is.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kehaulani wrote:

I learned the hard way that the term "Lightweight" refers to a horn's weight only in comparison to its big brother. I.e. A Bach Commercial "Lightweight" is light-er than a 180-37 but is not lightweight, in and of itself, like a Yamaha Shew is.


Uh-i feel for you After a really ugly disc Hernia in the back(in fact there where 3 of them-getting older isn't fun....) i couldn't hardly play the horn for months (any long tone over g1 felt like someone wiggled a samurai sword in my lower parts.... ) So i bought a Shewhorn and a Kelly 3C-the only thing that worked .The good old Connie (with Monette B3) absolutely killed my back for a while
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never weighed the 36 B or its relatives but I am under the impression that the 6B and 8B are a little lighter. Not super light, but the missing nickel plate can be felt, I guess.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For comparison:
Conn Artist 8B - 1072 grams or 2.36 lbs
Conn Connstellation 36B - 1150 grams or 2.54 lbs
Conn Connstellation 38B - 1205 grams or 2.66 lbs

The weights are from this website: https://trompetenforum.de/TF/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=14643&start=330

Compare to my Olds Custom Crafted (lightest horn) at 995 grams or 2.19 lbs weighed on my digital scale. My heaviest horn is the Edwards Gen 2 at 1085 grams or 2.39 lbs.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brain no longer plays the 36b, he's now playing his own Carol Brass model-somewhat modeled after the classic 36b. BTW, Maynard used the 36b on all those wonderful Roulette studio albums but for live gigs he used the 38b...
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 4:26 am    Post subject: 36B Reply with quote

Tom Harrell used the 36B from the 70’s on, although he switched to a 38B about 10 years back.

I’m very curious about the Carol version of the 36B. Do you have any specific information about that?
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