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poketrum Veteran Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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I picked up a CarolBrass Mini C and it plays nicely with the standard Sshhmute, with very good intonation. It’s easier to hold and build quality is better than my previous Kessler & Phaeton (also Hoxon Gakki) Bb pockets. I’m planning try it with a Sshhmute, and possibly the Divitt, mute for piccolo trumpet. |
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Divitt Trumpets Veteran Member
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poketrum Veteran Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:36 am Post subject: |
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Divitt Trumpets wrote: | My piccolo mute won't fit a pocket trumpet. |
Thanks. ACB claims the piccolo Sshhmute will fit the minis. I’ll know in a few days.
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Edit: the piccolo Sshhmute fits the Carol Mini C, but is not playable with the Carol Mini C. It is nowhere near in tune in C, so it’s NFG. ACB shouldn’t be marketing these together.
I found out, so now you don’t have to. Live and learn.
The standard Sshhmute works great. In tune with itself and the rest of the world. |
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Heim Veteran Member

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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2023 6:47 am Post subject: Re: Sshhmuteable C trumpets |
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poketrum wrote: | Heim wrote: | poketrum wrote: | Lacquered horns with enclosed top valve springs only.
Thanks,
poketrum |
Why do you only want a lacquered horn? |
No tarnish. No potential contact dermatitis. |
Eventually the lacquer comes off. It doesn't last that long at the contact points. I suppose it can last longer if if is wiped off religiously.
That sounds like a silver allergy. Am I right? |
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poketrum Veteran Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:03 am Post subject: |
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Silver possibly, but more likely nickel. Over the summer, I developed a truly horrendous case of dermatitis in response to repeated contact with a Getzen silver-plated trumpet that took over a month to clear up. I don’t know the nickel content in the plating or underlying metal, but I now have a systemic reaction to exposure nickel containing alloys, with lesions distant from the point of contact as well as from inhalation exposure. Also a suspected migraine trigger. I can’t play horns with monel valves or wear any of my watches, even with stainless steel cases. I’m actually in the middle of a systemic response to trying a couple of watches right now. I seem to be doing ok so far with the CarolBrass trumpet with stainless steel valves, so we’ll see how that goes. The valves don’t exhibit much wear, so inhalation exposure may be low (or none), though I’m not certain.
I’ll have combat any lacquer wear with gloves or refinishing. Raw brass makes my hand stink. I’m going to try clear nail polish on a couple of watches with ceramic cases and alloy backs.
Not fun.
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Jerry Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:29 am Post subject: |
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Don't Carol Brass trumpets come with a valve guard?
Could you use that to prolong lacquer life? |
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poketrum Veteran Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:49 am Post subject: |
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Jerry wrote: | Don't Carol Brass trumpets come with a valve guard?
Could you use that to prolong lacquer life? |
My mini (what I’m playing now) didn’t. I have a full-size Carol trumpet coming in January, so I’ll research guard options then. Thanks. |
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sd4f Regular Member
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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2023 8:39 am Post subject: |
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I have a Courtois Privilege 306 C trumpet, and a fairly ancient bremner shhhmute still with (perishing) neoprene fits without trouble. Compared to a Bb cornet, it actually seems to work fairly well here, as the resistance is somewhat noticeable on my cornet, but on this trumpet, it feels less clogged. |
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Heim Veteran Member

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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 1:42 am Post subject: |
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poketrum wrote: | Silver possibly, but more likely nickel. Over the summer, I developed a truly horrendous case of dermatitis in response to repeated contact with a Getzen silver-plated trumpet that took over a month to clear up. I don’t know the nickel content in the plating or underlying metal, but I now have a systemic reaction to exposure nickel containing alloys, with lesions distant from the point of contact as well as from inhalation exposure. Also a suspected migraine trigger. I can’t play horns with monel valves or wear any of my watches, even with stainless steel cases. I’m actually in the middle of a systemic response to trying a couple of watches right now. I seem to be doing ok so far with the CarolBrass trumpet with stainless steel valves, so we’ll see how that goes. The valves don’t exhibit much wear, so inhalation exposure may be low (or none), though I’m not certain.
I’ll have combat any lacquer wear with gloves or refinishing. Raw brass makes my hand stink. I’m going to try clear nail polish on a couple of watches with ceramic cases and alloy backs.
Not fun. |
A lot of Getzens have nickel slides. Trumpets also have nickel outer slides and ferrules.
That is really not fun. My son had to put masking tape on the waist button of his jeans when he was young. It took a while to figure that out but he played a Getzen for several years with no obvious problems. Now I wonder if one of the reasons that his asthma cleared up was that I had him start playing a gold plated Bach instead of the Getzen. A new project; check his old medical records for spikes in asthma improvement when he was 14 or so. Bach has monel valves though. |
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Brassnose Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 3:43 am Post subject: |
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I don’t follow the logic here: asthma is a respiratory problem and gold plate would not fix that (unless you plate the inside of the horn ). If however your son has a contact allergy then gold plate might do the trick. Dunno if contact allergies transfer into asthma, but you are talking about two different things, it seems. _________________ 2019 Martin Schmidt eXcellence
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