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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2025 8:15 pm    Post subject: Which Chair to Double Reply with quote

Our community stage band has four trumpets. We have some charts written for three trumpets. Which chairs should be doubled if we want all four players to be able to play?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2025 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say that depends on your situation as much as anything. If your first trumpet finds the range challenging for example, you may wish to double those parts. Can everyone play each part (because if 2 of the players can only play 3rd, the other options may be off the table anyway). The 3rd parts may be less audible in some parts, which you could double as well. Or maybe just write some 4th parts that double the 1st only an octave down. Or any combination of the above.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My preference goes either to:
- double the lowest part (which is generally the less audible)
- double the first part by splitting the lead sections (not 2 players playing at the same time during those passages)
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks to all! I think we'll double the third part. Our fourth trumpet could benefit from playng in unison with a stronger player.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My preference is to double from the bottom up.
But, it depends on the selection (sometime that 3rd part is redundant with a trombone or horn) and also if the 1st player is good with playing alone. Doubling the 1st book, with a principal and assistant approach, can make it far easier to get through a challenging program.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks again. Doubling up from the bottom maks the most sense for this band.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Double the lead part an octave lower wherever possible, in unison where it isn't.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PH wrote:
Double the lead part an octave lower wherever possible, in unison where it isn't.


Exactly....
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

claf wrote:
My preference goes either to:
- double the lowest part (which is generally the less audible)
- double the first part by splitting the lead sections (not 2 players playing at the same time during those passages)

I agree with this approach. If the lead player is strong enough, the 3rd part should be doubled.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2025 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Send one to the bar to get drinks for the section.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2025 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Billy B wrote:
Send one to the bar to get drinks for the section.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2025 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’ve played both unison lead and unison 4th.

In my experience, both can work just fine. If you’re gonna double on lead make sure both lead players are in tune and agree on the pitch. If you double the 4th part, make sure both players don’t play too loud.

That should work surprisingly well! It did for me/us.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2025 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PH wrote:
Double the lead part an octave lower wherever possible, in unison where it isn't.
This is what I do. If the lead needs a break, with a nod the 4th part player can play lead from the same music.

ps sometimes I write a fourth trumpet part, adding another harmony note where warranted, and otherwise doubling the first part down an octave.

And then there is this: my brother played fourth in one band where he occasionally doubled the first part UP an octave.
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