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Derek Reaban
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeff,

I saw your message in another post and thought it would be a good time to update the information for the Seoul Philharmonic. Could you check this list for me? I have added Alexander White as Associate Principal. I believe Gareth Flowers was Principal for a time, but it's not clear to me the make-up of the section starting in 2006.


Seoul Philharmonic Orchestra
Principal Trumpet Players

Start-End_________Name


2006–Current_______Jeffrey Holbrook
2005-2006_________Paul Jeffrey
1990-2005_________Jee-Hwa Lee
1948–1990_________TBD


Website: Seoul Philharmonic Orchestra Trumpet Section

Current Roster for the 2010-2011 Season
Vacant - Principal
Jeffrey Holbrook – Associate Principal
Alexander White – Associate Principal
Young-Hwan Lee
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Derek Reaban wrote:
Jeff,

I saw your message in another post and thought it would be a good time to update the information for the Seoul Philharmonic. Could you check this list for me? I have added Alexander White as Associate Principal. I believe Gareth Flowers was Principal for a time, but it's not clear to me the make-up of the section starting in 2006.


Seoul Philharmonic Orchestra
Principal Trumpet Players

Start-End_________Name


2006–Current_______Jeffrey Holbrook
2005-2006_________Paul Jeffrey
1990-2005_________Jee-Hwa Lee
1948–1990_________TBD


Website: Seoul Philharmonic Orchestra Trumpet Section

Current Roster for the 2010-2011 Season
Vacant - Principal
Jeffrey Holbrook – Associate Principal
Alexander White – Associate Principal
Young-Hwan Lee


Hi Derek,

I just saw your post and took the liberty to answer on Jeff's behalf (please forgive me, Jeff).

I also listed the nationality of the currently rostered players. I feel it's an interesting fact that we're five players from four different countries (three different continents)!

Principal listed by season
2010/11 Alexandre Baty
2009/10 Alexandre Baty
2008/09 Gareth Flowers

Current roster (2010/11)
Alexandre Baty - Principal (France)
Jeffrey Holbrook - Ass. Principal (USA)
Alexander White - Ass. Principal (USA)
Yeong Il Lim - tutti/section (Korea)
Niels E. Heidoe - tutti/section (Denmark)

Niels.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Niels,

Thanks very much for updating this list! I have made the corrections below.

Seoul Philharmonic Orchestra
Principal Trumpet Players

Start-End________Name


2009-Current_______Alexandre Baty
2008-2009_________Gareth Flowers
2006–2008_________Jeffrey Holbrook
2005-2006_________Paul Jeffrey
1990-2005_________Jee-Hwa Lee
1948–1990_________TBD


Website: Seoul Philharmonic Orchestra Trumpet Section

Current Roster for the 2010-2011 Season
Alexandre Baty - Principal
Jeffrey Holbrook – Associate Principal
Alexander White – Associate Principal
Yeong Il Lim - Tutti/Section
Niels E. Heidoe - Tutti/Section
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I received a letter out of the blue last night that allows us to complete the list for the Seattle Symphony Trumpet Section. Greg Dziekonski, from Seattle, found this TH Post and did a great deal of research to fill in the missing details before 1947. I’m including his letter as I received it, because it contains lots of interesting information.

17 October 2011

Dear Mr. Reaban,

Attached is a listing of Seattle Symphony principal trumpeters from the period I noticed was missing from the Trumpet Herald listings which you have compiled. What I have compiled from programs, newspaper articles, music store advertisements, and union board minutes at the time:

1903-1908?: Conrad Bieber: There are no personnel listings in programs through some of this period, but German-born Conrad Bieber is listed as principal for the first concert in 1903 in a newspaper article, listed in an October 1904 program which just lists all personnel with no instruments (although his name is misspelled), and is listed as principal in a program from April 22, 1908, which is the only program containing personnel lists back to October 1904 available in the local libraries. Programs for the 1905-6 and 1906-7 seasons are missing completely. There are no personnel listings on programs for the entire 1908-9 season.

1909-10: Otto Lennart.

1910 to 1917: Albert Cleveland n.b. Personnel listings are missing from programs for the entire 1911-12 season.

1917-1919: Paul Lusterman. This gentlemen may have also played the cello in previous seasons.

1919 to 1921: Albert Cleveland

1921 to 1926: no orchestra. The Seattle Symphony folded in 1921 due to lack of money, and went into a 5-year period of dormancy.

1926 to 1935: Someone with the last name Impala. According to various program personnel listings, newspaper articles, and music store advertisements, this guy went by J. Impala, Lawrence J. Impala, L. G. Impala, L. Joseph Impala, Lorenzo Josef Impala, or L. G. (Joe) Impala. Pick one. The “G” might stand for “Guiseppe.” He was born in Italy. I am almost certain this is not more than one person.

1935 to 1939: LeRoy Clark

1939 to 1941: Edward Krenz

1941 to 1942: Albert Cleveland

1942 to 1945: Edward Krenz

1945 to 1947: LeRoy Clark

The late 1930s and the Second World War years are kind of a musical chairs among three people, but news articles from 1939 to 1941 confirm that Edward Krenz and Albert Cleveland were designated as principal for those respective years. The union board minutes denote that the Symphony requested an imported 1st trumpet for the 1941 season, which implies that the incumbent had left. It looks like the importation did not materialize, since Albert Cleveland took over, for one season (perhaps as an acting principal?) and he had been around since 1909. Krenz did not play in the 1941-2 season, but returned as principal in 1942. LeRoy Clark is listed as second trumpet during the 1941-2 season, then disappears until 1945. A 1946 program biography states that LeRoy Clark ”has been with the Seattle Symphony continuously since 1927, except for three war years when he worked as material clerk in a pipe shop of one of our war plants.” William Cole was appointed to the position in 1947 by conductor Carl Bricken. Cole at that time was touring the country playing in Les Brown’s band, and was registered in the Los Angeles union local. LeRoy Clark raised a big ruckus with the union board about losing his position. Although the union board at first supported Clark, the board’s action was expunged from the minutes the following week, and Bricken’s hiring of Cole was allowed to stand. LeRoy Clark left the orchestra.

Hope this helps.

Greg Dziekonski

And included in the letter was the following “Local 76 AFM Board meeting minutes from 1947”:

Member LeRoy Clark appeared re matter of his position as first trumpet in Seattle Symphony Orchestra. Joe Pine personnel manager of Seattle Symphony Orchestra stated William Cole had been engaged to play first trumpet next season at recommendation of Carl Bricken. REGULAR MEETING OF BOARD OF DIRECTORS, Thursday September 4, 1947.

Matter of protest of LeRoy Clark, re matter of first trumpet in Seattle Symphony Orchestra for next season discussed by the board and was moved, that in conformity with our verbal agreement with Symphony management, that there would be no displacements in the personnel of the orchestra for the 1947-48 season, LeRoy Clark be assured position with the Symphony for next season on steady weekly payroll. Motion carried. Pelletier refusing to vote. (McCreary was not present). REGULAR MEETING OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, Thursday September 4, 1947.

Matter of protest of LeRoy Clark, re Seattle Symphony Orchestra and Board action of September 4, 1947, discussed by the Board, and it was moved that, that portion of the minutes re LeRoy Clark in the matter of Seattle Symphony Orchestra be expunged for (sic) the minutes of meeting September 4, 1947. Motion carried, Pelletier, Hainsworth, Smullin, Carey, Voting NO. (McCreary not present). REGULAR MEETING OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, Thursday September 11, 1947.




I went back into my records and found this supporting information provided by Steve Lowe back in September 2004. This information did not allow me to determine who was in the position of Principal trumpet, so I’m thrilled that Greg was able to fill in all of the missing details with his research:

Seattle Symphony Orchestra Centennial Roster, 1903-2003

Compiled by Rebecca Smith and Stephanie Johnsrud

Trumpet
Name.........................Start Date..End Date

C. Bieber....................1908..........1909
A.L. Cleveland.............1908..........1917
Albert Keesing.............1908..........1909
C.R. Shields................1908..........1909
Otto Lehnert................1909..........1911
A. Nightingale..............1909..........1910
Frank Bradley..............1910..........1913
William Hebs................1910..........1910
Albert Keesing.............1910..........1913
Wallace Lehr................1911..........1911
C. Wesley....................1911..........1913
A. Nightingale...............1913..........1915
D. Grindrod..................1915..........1916
Charles Rosen..............1916..........1919
P. Lusterman................1917..........?
A. Allen........................1918..........1919
Albert Keesing..............1918..........1919
E. Carey......................1919..........?
A. Cleveland................1919..........?

* info missing from 1919-1926

I. Impala.....................1926..........1927
A. Keesing...................1926..........1927
Alfred Krenz.................1926..........1932
George Hutchins...........1927..........1928
J. Impala......................1927..........1930
C. Woodward................1927..........1927
F. Bradley, Jr................1928..........1929
LeRoy Clark..................1928..........1942
L. Prestek.....................1928..........1929
Albert Cleveland............1929..........1939
L.G. Impala...................1930..........1935
Robert Kale...................1930..........1931
Karl Horn......................1931..........1931
George Hutchins............1931..........1932
Edward McDowell...........1935..........1936
Charles Decker.............1939..........1944
Edward Krenz................1939..........1945
Albert Cleveland............1944..........1946
Randall Rockhill.............1944..........1945
Le Roy Clark.................1945..........1947
Charles Decker..............1945..........1955
John Stroessler..............1946..........1947
Bill Cole........................1947..........1965
Randall Rockhill..............1947..........1948
Dean Rowbotham...........1947..........1948
Ward Cole.....................1948..........1949
Dolores Marshall.............1949..........1952
Walter Tianen.................1952..........1957
Jerry Woodman..............1952..........1954
Robert Brubaker.............1953..........1954
James Weaver................1954..........1975
Sue Fisk-Shawger...........1955..........1957
Charles Decker...............1957..........1975
Roy Cummings...............1962..........1966
Keith Mirick....................1962..........1963
Steve Moen....................1962..........1963
Alan Van Ausdol..............1962..........1963
Carleton Whelchel...........1964..........1979
Roy Cummings...............1967..........1975
Jeffrey Cole....................1975..........2000
Richard Pressley.............1975..........present
Manuel Laureano.............1979..........1981
Charles Butler.................1986..........2002
Jeffrey Bergler................1989..........present
David Gordon..................2002..........present


And here is the updated list:


Seattle Symphony
Principal Trumpet Players


Start-End________Name

2002-Current_______David Gordon
1983-2002_________Charles Butler
1981-1983_________Charles Daval
1977-1981_________Manny Laureano
1965-1977_________Carlton Whelchel
1947-1965_________William “Bill” Cole
1945-1947_________LeRoy Clark
1942-1945_________Edward Krenz
1941-1942_________Albert Cleveland
1939-1941_________Edward Krenz
1935-1939_________LeRoy Clark
1926-1935_________Joe Impala
1921-1926: Seattle Symphony Shutdown due to Funding Issues
1919-1921_________Albert Cleveland
1917-1919_________Paul Lusterman
1910-1917_________Albert Cleveland
1909-1910_________Otto Lehnert
1903-1908_________Conrad Bieber


Web Site: Seattle Symphony Trumpet Players

Current roster for the 2011-2012 Season:
David Gordon – Principal Trumpet
Christopher Smith – Assistant Principal
Geoffrey Bergler

References:
Charles Butler reference
Manny Laureano reference

Since this ensemble is now complete, I’ll open this information in its own folder soon.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:32 am    Post subject: Max Woodbury Indianapolis Symphony Orchestra Reply with quote

My name is Rex Woodbury, the grandson of Max Woodbury who played with the Indianapolis Symphony Ochestra for over 35 years. I am trying to compile any and all biographical information, pictures, videos, anything. My sister's and I are wanting to create a webpage in his memory so our children and grandchildren and on down the line will never forget the amazing man he was as a trumpeter and a teacher.

If there is any information you have the we could use would be a blessing. I personally am living in Bangkok, Thailand, but the rest of my family lives in Johnson County, IN.

Please let me know if there is any help you can offer use.

Thank you.
Sincerely,

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rex,

Thanks for your message. I remember an article in the International Trumpet Guild (ITG) Journal from 1998 that highlighted the career of Adolf Herseth who had just completed his 50th season with the Chicago Symphony. In that article the author provided the names of pictures of other prominent Principal trumpet players in major symphony orchestras. Your grandfather’s picture was included in this article along with the years that he held the principal chair in the Indianapolis Symphony (1937-1968).

I know very little about your Grandfather. I’m hoping that others may join in and provide some interesting stories about his career (I’ll open a separate post so that people can contribute). Can you tell us where he went to school? I’m certain that he would have been in classes with many of the finest players in the country at the time.

I have a friend at church that was a cellist in Detroit for many years and was friends with James Tamburini who was Principal Trumpet in the Detroit Symphony from 1944-1966. He told me that James Tamburini went to school with Leonard Berstein and Samuel Barber. I’m guessing that your Grandfather had similar classmates and it would be fascinating to see if we can do some investigative work to figure it out.

If you have any pictures or stories that you would like to share, I know that this would be a great place to do it. I will include these posts with a link to the folder that I put together for the Indianapolis Symphony Orchestra

Look in this folder for follow-up information
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