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samlg Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Nov 2002 Posts: 905 Location: hampshire, England
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 2:51 am Post subject: |
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you dont know how many where offered do you? well done with your results beats my B! do you know what halls you are staying in? theres a pub right next door to mine
its gonna be fun, sam
sorry for invading this thread by the way
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DCB1 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 20 Jun 2004 Posts: 1944 Location: Jacksonville, Florida
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 3:12 am Post subject: |
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Terry is a trip for sure. KT has to keep him in line.(:>) _________________ DCB <><
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hose Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 6:31 am Post subject: |
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DCB1, I sent you a private message. _________________ Dave Wisner
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JohnCage Veteran Member
Joined: 18 Jun 2003 Posts: 354 Location: Seoul, Korea(South)
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 5:14 am Post subject: |
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I'm pharmacist and working in neuroscience lab.
FYI, 70% EtOH has maximum sterlizing activity.
In addition, I sometimes autoclave my mouthpiece.
:smile:
[ This Message was edited by: JohnCage on 2004-08-23 08:15 ] |
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_Daff Heavyweight Member
Joined: 08 Jul 2003 Posts: 1431
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 8:00 am Post subject: |
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Geez, you cats are getting awefully scientific about this. Just scrub the darn thing in hot soap and water. What the heck do you think they do to the spoons and forks in a restaurant?.....yet you jamb those things into your faces without any thought, and lick them clean.
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_Don Herman 'Chicago School' Forum Moderator
Joined: 11 Nov 2001 Posts: 3344 Location: Monument, CO, USA
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 11:00 am Post subject: |
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Actually, properly working dishwashers in restaurants get quite a bit hotter than you could stand hand washing (trust me on this!) and hotter than most home dishwashers. "Properly" is always up for grabs, if course. And the question was about sterilization, not just cleaning. - Don _________________ Don Herman/Monument, CO
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pfrank Heavyweight Member
Joined: 21 Feb 2002 Posts: 3523 Location: Boston MA
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 11:14 am Post subject: |
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I think that if you are TOO squeemish about germs, you'll get sick. I've seen it many times. We Need constant exposure to the biologic background to maintain immunity, and some germs are necessary. Without the flora of the intestines, we'd loose the ability to process food. People (especially young women) who take antibiotics for skin conditions often get thrown out of balance for years after the skin is cleared up.
We get a cold when our immune system is stressed, or a cold virus is very unfamiliar.
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BigBadWolf Heavyweight Member
Joined: 06 Aug 2004 Posts: 3091 Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 11:49 am Post subject: |
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When you boil the mp should you allow the mp to touch the bottom of the pot? I could imagine that that might scratch up the pot or the mp. Or do you boil the water in the microwave and just put the m in later?
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Mikeytrpt Heavyweight Member
Joined: 15 Mar 2004 Posts: 5028 Location: Richfield, Minnesota
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 11:54 am Post subject: |
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"Pot"?
How did we work pot into this conversation?
I had Doc play one of my mouthpieces once. I did not wash it afterwards...........Figured there might be enough dubba C spit left to last me a while.
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pfrank Heavyweight Member
Joined: 21 Feb 2002 Posts: 3523 Location: Boston MA
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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What you do is build a little raft out of inflated baloons, and Never let the "pot" and he mp touch! (If you don't have baloons, condoms work OK) IF the mp touches the "pot" make sure you check it with an electron microscope, because those scratches might become "discontinuities" and yer pasta will stick. |
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DCB1 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 20 Jun 2004 Posts: 1944 Location: Jacksonville, Florida
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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I tried the bleach and water on a few mouthpieces I just got... and I will never do that again! They all tarnished so badly that now I have to figure out a way to clean them... again. _________________ DCB <><
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supportlivejazz Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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Actually GR , Monette and Al Cass mouthpieces can not be sterilized EVER and become breeding grounds for eboli and other similar bacteria. There really is NOTHING that can be done about this. And that is why I have decided to provide a free hazardous waste depository for TH members who have inadvertantly purchased these brands used. Simply private email me and I will provide my address. Of course I will have to melt them down when they arrive. It's the only safe thing to do. I will even pay the postage because I want all trumpet players to be safe and not have to worry any more.
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Tootsall Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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I'd agree with pfrank.... that therecan be such a thing as "too clean" (sometimes I wonder about the wisdom of ever-increasing quality standards for municipal water supply). I know that there is currently a suggestion and even some faint statistical evidence to indicate that "a little" radiation is better for you than none at all! Seems it (weak, short duration radiation) might kill off some things that would otherwise survive!
Of course, the other factor is that being continually obsessed with "hygiene" can lead to a state of mental stress with accompanying high blood pressure, loss of quality of life in other areas (such as a fear of taking part in activities since they "might be dirty"), and a shortened life span. That's my story and I am unanimous. |
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Dick S Heavyweight Member
Joined: 27 Feb 2004 Posts: 511 Location: Temecula, CA
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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In the interest of encouraging/promoting good hygene....
I will not volunteer nor will I diviluge if asked how often any of my 13 mpcs (some that I've had over 50 yrs.) have been "cleaned."
Regards, _________________ Dick S
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cgaiii Heavyweight Member
Joined: 26 Jun 2017 Posts: 1543 Location: Virginia USA
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Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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DCB1 wrote: | I tried the bleach and water on a few mouthpieces I just got... and I will never do that again! They all tarnished so badly that now I have to figure out a way to clean them... again.
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Good way to get the tarnish off your silver plated mouthpieces is to put a tablespoon of baking soda into a quart or even a liter of water, bring it almost to a boil, place a piece of aluminum foil in it and set your mouthpieces on the foil. This sets up an electrolytic reaction that allows the sulfur of the silver sulfide to migrate to the aluminum and form aluminum sulfide.
3 Ag2S + 2 Al → 6 Ag + Al2S3
silver sulfide + aluminum → silver + aluminum sulfide
You need to keep the solution hot for as long as it takes to get the tarnish off.
This removes no silver from the mouthpiece.
I even did this with a tarnished bugle and it worked like a charm. _________________ Bb: Schilke X3L AS SP, Yamaha YTR-6335S
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dstpt Heavyweight Member
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cgaiii Heavyweight Member
Joined: 26 Jun 2017 Posts: 1543 Location: Virginia USA
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Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:17 am Post subject: |
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Foil does not need to be in the water when it is being heated. Just put it in the bottom of any container. The mouthpieces have to be touching the foil.
What I do is use a separate container, heat the water and baking soda solution and pour it over the mouthpieces and foil in another container. Then if it cools before I am satisfied with the cleaning, I just dip some out and heat it to add back in and raise the temperature. Not necessary to boil, just close to boiling. I would not let it boil.
You can use this for anything silver, like good silver cutlery. Wish I had known that when I was a kid. Would have saved my sister and me a lot of time polishing my mother's silver. _________________ Bb: Schilke X3L AS SP, Yamaha YTR-6335S
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cgaiii Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:28 am Post subject: |
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Also, remember if the solution is weaker, with less baking soda, or the heat gets lower it will take longer for the electrolytic reaction to occur. Don't burn yourself taking out the pieces to look at! _________________ Bb: Schilke X3L AS SP, Yamaha YTR-6335S
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Picc: Kanstul 920
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Crazy Finn Heavyweight Member
Joined: 27 Dec 2001 Posts: 8333 Location: Twin Cities, Minnesota
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Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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cgaiii wrote: | Foil does not need to be in the water when it is being heated. Just put it in the bottom of any container. The mouthpieces have to be touching the foil.
What I do is use a separate container, heat the water and baking soda solution and pour it over the mouthpieces and foil in another container. Then if it cools before I am satisfied with the cleaning, I just dip some out and heat it to add back in and raise the temperature. Not necessary to boil, just close to boiling. I would not let it boil.
You can use this for anything silver, like good silver cutlery. Wish I had known that when I was a kid. Would have saved my sister and me a lot of time polishing my mother's silver. |
Do this in a well ventilated area, as there are definite sulfur fumes from this process, in my experience. _________________ LA Benge 3X Bb Trumpet
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cgaiii Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, there is some formation of H2S, though most stays dissolved in the water, which gives you a sulfur smell. This gas occurs naturally in the atmosphere, but can be harmful in higher concentrations. Ventilation is always a good idea, or you can set the reaction container outside. For a couple of mouthpieces, you may not even notice it. _________________ Bb: Schilke X3L AS SP, Yamaha YTR-6335S
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Picc: Kanstul 920
Bb Bugle: Kanstul
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