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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you dont know how many where offered do you? well done with your results beats my B! do you know what halls you are staying in? theres a pub right next door to mine

its gonna be fun, sam

sorry for invading this thread by the way

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Terry is a trip for sure. KT has to keep him in line.(:>)
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DCB1, I sent you a private message.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm pharmacist and working in neuroscience lab.

FYI, 70% EtOH has maximum sterlizing activity.

In addition, I sometimes autoclave my mouthpiece.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geez, you cats are getting awefully scientific about this. Just scrub the darn thing in hot soap and water. What the heck do you think they do to the spoons and forks in a restaurant?.....yet you jamb those things into your faces without any thought, and lick them clean.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, properly working dishwashers in restaurants get quite a bit hotter than you could stand hand washing (trust me on this!) and hotter than most home dishwashers. "Properly" is always up for grabs, if course. And the question was about sterilization, not just cleaning. - Don
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that if you are TOO squeemish about germs, you'll get sick. I've seen it many times. We Need constant exposure to the biologic background to maintain immunity, and some germs are necessary. Without the flora of the intestines, we'd loose the ability to process food. People (especially young women) who take antibiotics for skin conditions often get thrown out of balance for years after the skin is cleared up.
We get a cold when our immune system is stressed, or a cold virus is very unfamiliar.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you boil the mp should you allow the mp to touch the bottom of the pot? I could imagine that that might scratch up the pot or the mp. Or do you boil the water in the microwave and just put the m in later?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Pot"?


How did we work pot into this conversation?

I had Doc play one of my mouthpieces once. I did not wash it afterwards...........Figured there might be enough dubba C spit left to last me a while.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What you do is build a little raft out of inflated baloons, and Never let the "pot" and he mp touch! (If you don't have baloons, condoms work OK) IF the mp touches the "pot" make sure you check it with an electron microscope, because those scratches might become "discontinuities" and yer pasta will stick.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried the bleach and water on a few mouthpieces I just got... and I will never do that again! They all tarnished so badly that now I have to figure out a way to clean them... again.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually GR , Monette and Al Cass mouthpieces can not be sterilized EVER and become breeding grounds for eboli and other similar bacteria. There really is NOTHING that can be done about this. And that is why I have decided to provide a free hazardous waste depository for TH members who have inadvertantly purchased these brands used. Simply private email me and I will provide my address. Of course I will have to melt them down when they arrive. It's the only safe thing to do. I will even pay the postage because I want all trumpet players to be safe and not have to worry any more.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd agree with pfrank.... that therecan be such a thing as "too clean" (sometimes I wonder about the wisdom of ever-increasing quality standards for municipal water supply). I know that there is currently a suggestion and even some faint statistical evidence to indicate that "a little" radiation is better for you than none at all! Seems it (weak, short duration radiation) might kill off some things that would otherwise survive!

Of course, the other factor is that being continually obsessed with "hygiene" can lead to a state of mental stress with accompanying high blood pressure, loss of quality of life in other areas (such as a fear of taking part in activities since they "might be dirty"), and a shortened life span. That's my story and I am unanimous.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the interest of encouraging/promoting good hygene....

I will not volunteer nor will I diviluge if asked how often any of my 13 mpcs (some that I've had over 50 yrs.) have been "cleaned."

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DCB1 wrote:
I tried the bleach and water on a few mouthpieces I just got... and I will never do that again! They all tarnished so badly that now I have to figure out a way to clean them... again.


Good way to get the tarnish off your silver plated mouthpieces is to put a tablespoon of baking soda into a quart or even a liter of water, bring it almost to a boil, place a piece of aluminum foil in it and set your mouthpieces on the foil. This sets up an electrolytic reaction that allows the sulfur of the silver sulfide to migrate to the aluminum and form aluminum sulfide.

3 Ag2S + 2 Al → 6 Ag + Al2S3
silver sulfide + aluminum → silver + aluminum sulfide

You need to keep the solution hot for as long as it takes to get the tarnish off.
This removes no silver from the mouthpiece.

I even did this with a tarnished bugle and it worked like a charm.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Foil does not need to be in the water when it is being heated. Just put it in the bottom of any container. The mouthpieces have to be touching the foil.

What I do is use a separate container, heat the water and baking soda solution and pour it over the mouthpieces and foil in another container. Then if it cools before I am satisfied with the cleaning, I just dip some out and heat it to add back in and raise the temperature. Not necessary to boil, just close to boiling. I would not let it boil.

You can use this for anything silver, like good silver cutlery. Wish I had known that when I was a kid. Would have saved my sister and me a lot of time polishing my mother's silver.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, remember if the solution is weaker, with less baking soda, or the heat gets lower it will take longer for the electrolytic reaction to occur. Don't burn yourself taking out the pieces to look at!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cgaiii wrote:
Foil does not need to be in the water when it is being heated. Just put it in the bottom of any container. The mouthpieces have to be touching the foil.

What I do is use a separate container, heat the water and baking soda solution and pour it over the mouthpieces and foil in another container. Then if it cools before I am satisfied with the cleaning, I just dip some out and heat it to add back in and raise the temperature. Not necessary to boil, just close to boiling. I would not let it boil.

You can use this for anything silver, like good silver cutlery. Wish I had known that when I was a kid. Would have saved my sister and me a lot of time polishing my mother's silver.


Do this in a well ventilated area, as there are definite sulfur fumes from this process, in my experience.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, there is some formation of H2S, though most stays dissolved in the water, which gives you a sulfur smell. This gas occurs naturally in the atmosphere, but can be harmful in higher concentrations. Ventilation is always a good idea, or you can set the reaction container outside. For a couple of mouthpieces, you may not even notice it.
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