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razeontherock
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zombie thread alert! Much needed though. We have some noobs having this same conversation all over again. Much better for them to read what we've all said 12 years ago first ...

In short, we all realise that rim size is personal, and yes there are instructors that don't get it.
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deliberate zombie resurrection, raze :p
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

razeontherock wrote:

In short, we all realise that rim size is personal, and yes there are instructors that don't get it.


This is exactly why I am cautious of "instructors" or some "teachers." I recently worked with a highschool bass clarinet player who wanted to learn trumpet for marching band. She did beautifully on a Bach 7C mouthpiece ... sounded good and stated that it felt great. Her school band director (himself a trumpet player) tells her that she "needs" to "graduate" to a Bach 3C. I told her to stay on the 7C ... more none sense. By the way, she made marching band ... AND ... the jazz ensemble.
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stupid. Ideology first, practicality second. My teacher was a Schilke student and he used a Schilke H (11) (like me) the comparable to a 7C. He not only played it in college but as principle in a Symphonic Orchestra, as well.

I did throughout my days at Univ. of North Texas with not a peep from Haynie; then in the AF and other parts unknown. Served me well.
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great post Jens :)
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup. We all start on something in the middle of the road, and then find out what suits our chops and our style of playing and the sound we want, and many of us find something that fits that, better or worse.
I started on an Olds 3, because it came with the horn. I was given a 7C because the band teacher was told that was what was required on trumpet. I was given oodles of advice from older and better players, and eventually first had Jet-Tone and then Marcinkewicz make me custom pieces that fit me better than what I'd found (or been told to play) before.
Would I tell a younger player to use m mouthpiece? No. Would I tell a marathon runner or tennis player to wear my shoes? What works for me may not work for you - find what does.
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Better to read also the post on page 2 by Gr tech.
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

delano wrote:
Better to read also the post on page 2 by Gr tech.

Thanks for pointing that out. I had missed that post the previous several times this thread was brought back.

GR Tech made a good point about lip intrusion with larger diameter rims. I've found the same when trying different sizes: if I go too big, my lips protrude farther into the cup, which causes other difficulties. Back to where this all started for me: I need a rim inner diameter that's big enough to get my lips within the rim perimeter comfortably, but no bigger, else they start falling down into the cup.
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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2017 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GR Tech wrote:

3. GR's 3 Rules of Brass Playing- Rule #3; There must be a match between the player, horn, and mouthpiece. If one changes the others must be able to accommodate the change or be changed as well. The system needs to be a match! [/u]


This is brilliant advice.
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