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11% |
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| curry |
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10% |
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| marcinkiewicz |
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6% |
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RandyTX
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Actually, this thread originated in 2005. Bringing out the vintage polls now. 
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cbtj51
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... I have the same range and endurance whether it's on a deep flugel piece or a shallow lead piece. Of course I play these pieces for the purposes which they are intended. I don't try to play lead type of stuff on my deep V trumpet mouthpiece or try to make my lead piece give a dark, smoky jazz sound. All the best, Lex |
I played and loved the Reeves #1 Rim way back in 1971. When that Rim was destroyed in the early 90s, the #1 had morphed into the 41 Rim at Reeves (I don't think there was any change but the # designation) so that's what I replaced it with. Reeves 41 Rims have worked so well for me that I don't even look elsewhere. I only change the Underpart as needed for the style and type of Horn. Rim feel is always the same and the adjustment to the bottom part change is minimal, so Range and Endurance don't seem to be altered. In a nutshell, I am a Reeves Loyalist!!!
Mike
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Yamahaguy
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Hahaha..that's right Randy! I should have said MY post...in '05 I think I was on
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The most COMFORTABLE mouthpiece I have played would be my prototype Jerome Callet star triple cup with a super heavyweight blank. It almost feels like there is nothing there at all. My only problem with it is that the diameter is too big for me. The most USEABLE mouthpiece I have tried might be my friend's Warburton 10s/8*. I could go for a slightly deeper cup or larger throat, but my lips just want to vibrate when I put them to that rim. The diameter is close to perfect for me.
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Monette B6DS1 - feels like a 3c but plays like a 1C.
Curry Groovin High - feels niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice for lead lead.
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roynj
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As we find is often the case with mouthpieces, what "feels" comfortable isn't always the best in terms of quality of sound, articulation, intonation from low to high, dynamics, etc.
All of it is a bit of a compromise. If you go strictly for comfort, forgetting all other attributes, then you may sacrifice on sound or response. I suggest using the mp that enables your best sound and performance, and then over lots of practice time, you will discover that mp will somehow become more comfortable. Anyhow, this has been my own experience and that of many others I know. |
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trumpetom2
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| RandyTX wrote: | | Actually, this thread originated in 2005. Bringing out the vintage polls now. |
I'm happy to have revived and old but interesting discussion 
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| Parduba 5 mouthpiece. |
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jaysonr
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The most comfortable rim I've ever played is the Monette B11/C11 rim.
I'm constantly on the lookout for a deal on a B11S5 because the regular ones are just so deep, but the rim is soooo good. They just don't ever show up.
I also like the Stork 2, as it feels a little similar, but not quite the same.
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chrisneverve
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| Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 4:22 pm Post subject: Hagstrom’s Rim |
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Hagstrom’s Rim
If I’m correct, it is based off of an old Bach rim. The top FEELS like it is flat and the edges are very comfortable. This combination is heavenly. Several makers will scale it to your needs. Do yourself a favor and find one. |
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Dan in Sydney
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Well, folks, the simple answer has to be the one you're simply not aware of as you make music through your instrument. It usually happens through lots of trial and error and PRACTICE.
When you're in good shape both mentally and physically, everything feels good, and when you're not, nothing does.
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| GR Bergeron, can play all day on it!! |
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kubban
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| Dan in Sydney wrote: | Well, folks, the simple answer has to be the one you're simply not aware of as you make music through your instrument. It usually happens through lots of trial and error and PRACTICE.
When you're in good shape both mentally and physically, everything feels good, and when you're not, nothing does. |
Yes!
For me that is most likely to happen on my favourite Warburton 4 pre fire rim. It feels just right.
I also like my Reeves made Purviance 4*3 rim (feels to me larger ID and softer bite and less flat than my prefire Warb, and Reeves made Purviance 4*K4 rim (feels to me about same ID and softer bite and less flat than my prefire Warb.)
My perceivance of the rim is of course based on how i experience the whole system (me, rim, cup, bb, horn).
All the best!
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giakara
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| kubban wrote: | | Dan in Sydney wrote: | Well, folks, the simple answer has to be the one you're simply not aware of as you make music through your instrument. It usually happens through lots of trial and error and PRACTICE.
When you're in good shape both mentally and physically, everything feels good, and when you're not, nothing does. |
Yes!
For me that is most likely to happen on my favourite Warburton 4 pre fire rim. It feels just right.
I also like my Reeves made Purviance 4*3 rim (feels to me larger ID and softer bite and less flat than my prefire Warb, and Reeves made Purviance 4*K4 rim (feels to me about same ID and softer bite and less flat than my prefire Warb.)
My perceivance of the rim is of course based on how i experience the whole system (me, rim, cup, bb, horn).
All the best!
Torstein |
I have a question for you my friend , I have the same cornet with you made the same year and my horn has one piece bell , I have see a couple older 850 with two piece bell (and mine sounds much better ) , your horn has one or two piece bell?
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Marcinkiewicz
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NevadaBigHorn
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Toss up between my Warburton 6SW and my Yamaha Canadian Brass Lead.
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There are only 4 rim types I would ever say we’re comfortable for me. They all had soft bites, which ai think is key to comfort, and extending playing endurance.
I’ll list in order of comfort:
1. Marcinkiewicz Burbank E8 R. Baptist
2. Bob Reeves 42SV 692SL (the mouthpiece I currently play, and find the most efficient for all types of playing)
3. Purviance 8 (aka) 4*K4
4. Best Brass 11E
All others have felt much less comfortable. I cannot even really play Bach mouthpieces anymore! I really don’t like ANY of the stock model Warburtons...way too flat a rim and sharp inner and outer bites on every one!
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Trumpetingbynurture
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| For me, the Hickman contour (a rounded off Neill Sander contour) works really well. It gives me the endurance to play as much as I want without messing my face up. |
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