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Patty from Modesto New Member
Joined: 06 Jul 2002 Posts: 3
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Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2002 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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Hello everyone
I was thinking that facial hair must affect trumpet playing. I saw a broadcast of an orchestra concert on PBS recently that had the first trumpet with a small gotete. He sounded fabulous so I figure it must help him play better. The conductor had a beard but he was an older Santa Claus looking gentelman. I assume he must have at least played the cornet before. What does everyone think? I have a problem with this because I am a woman. But if it works I am willing to get the hormone shots it takes! I saw a picture of HL Clarke and he had kind of a handle bar mustache. Do you think the old time cornet mouthpieces made him have ingrown hairs around his embouchure and therefore caused those nasty ingrown pimples?
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a441 Veteran Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2002 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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On 2002-07-21 19:24, Patty from Modesto wrote:
Hello everyone
I was thinking that facial hair must affect trumpet playing. I saw a broadcast of an orchestra concert on PBS recently that had the first trumpet with a small gotete. He sounded fabulous so I figure it must help him play better. The conductor had a beard but he was an older Santa Claus looking gentelman.
Patty from Modesto
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LOL...that was the NY Phil. Bob Sullivan has the goatee......he sounds equally great without facial hair!! |
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_PhilPicc Heavyweight Member
Joined: 15 Jan 2002 Posts: 2286 Location: Clarkston, Mi. USA
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Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2002 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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Welcome Patty from Modesto,
I've played with briefly and without mostly. I prefer without but I really didn't give the other a fair chance. I didn't change because of my playing. I changed because the way mine came in I looked really stupid.
Stay a woman and forget the hormone shots
Glad to have you here,
Phil _________________ Philip Satterthwaite
We cannot expect you to be with us all the time, but perhaps you could be good enough to keep in touch now and again."
- Sir Thomas Beecham to a musician during a rehearsal |
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walter Veteran Member
Joined: 15 Nov 2001 Posts: 428 Location: near Philadelphia
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Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2002 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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[ This Message was edited by: walter on 2002-09-20 09:19 ] |
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stickyvalves Regular Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2002 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Patty,
War Rogaine!!
..out... |
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trumpet1 Veteran Member
Joined: 07 Jun 2002 Posts: 218
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Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2002 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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well, facial hair doesn't effect our top trombonist... |
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pedaltonekid Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2002 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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I have a goatee and a moustache and can't play very well. Unfortunately I can't play very well without them either. |
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trumpetgeek234 Veteran Member
Joined: 08 Dec 2001 Posts: 286 Location: Germany
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Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2002 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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I have never heard someone saying that he/she wants to grow a mustache or beard to become a better trumpeter. Try practicing! |
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SMrtn Veteran Member
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I don't play orchestral or anything, but playing unshaven has given me an irritation under my bottom lip. I felt it happening during my three hour session, but ignored it and now I have what looks like a cold sore, and have taken a week out for it to heal. I despise shaving, but I'll never do that again - play unshaven that is. |
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UsedToKnowEverything Regular Member
Joined: 28 Dec 2005 Posts: 65 Location: Warm climates
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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trumpetgeek234 wrote: | I have never heard someone saying that he/she wants to grow a mustache or beard to become a better trumpeter. Try practicing! |
Actually, many years--make that decades--ago, I vividly remember Johnny Carson asking Doc Severinsen once on the Tonight Show if the mustache helped. He looked sincere when simply replying that yes, it did. So there. (I do think he also practiced) |
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starkadder Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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Valve oil brand is a better indicator of potential than facial hair. |
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Bstradivarius Veteran Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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Not fond of my beard when I had one. For me, the hair interfered with the seal of the mouthpiece and the lips. Notice doc severinsen has a circle shaved off his mustache around where the mouthpiece would be, as with any player with a beard I've seen. Never tried that.
Not my thing. |
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GeorgeB Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:19 am Post subject: |
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Patty, think Louis Armstrong, Harry James, Ray Anthony, Chet Baker, etc, etc,...no beards in sight, and all of them great players. Then think Alison Balson, Tine Thing Helseth, etc, etc., all great female players and no beards. Stay womanly, my dear. Please. _________________ GeorgeB
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hup_d_dup Veteran Member
Joined: 31 Aug 2009 Posts: 288 Location: Tewksbury, NJ
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Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 5:38 am Post subject: |
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I saw a James Morrison video where he rotated the trumpet so that it was upside down. So he was pushing the valves up instead of down. He sounded great! I'm thinking maybe my playing will improve if I rotate the horn upside down like he does. What do you think?
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cheiden Heavyweight Member
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Of all the threads to dredge up after 15 years. _________________ "I'm an engineer, which means I think I know a whole bunch of stuff I really don't."
Charles J Heiden/So Cal
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trumpetman7984 Regular Member
Joined: 01 Sep 2017 Posts: 54 Location: Cincinnati
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Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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Facial hair literally doesn't matter. Chris Coletti of Canadian Brass plays great both with and without facial hair. Ronald Romm is famous for his facial hair, but he plays under the moustache, therefore not using the facial hair. _________________ Schilke B1 Bb
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Robert P Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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Years ago I think it was some kind of "thing" that a moustache helped with trumpet. While there have been a number of great players with them I've never heard any real substantiation as to why it would. I think Doc made a divot in his 'stache for his mp, I believe Harry James' mp sat right on his 'stache. I personally don't get how someone can function with hair between their mp and their lip. _________________ Getzen Eterna Severinsen
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Robert P Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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GeorgeB wrote: | Patty, think Louis Armstrong, Harry James, |
Harry had a 'stache. _________________ Getzen Eterna Severinsen
King Silver Flair
Besson 1000
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Getzen Eterna Bb/A piccolo
Chinese Rotary Bb/A piccolo
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