Could ANYONE tell me the difference between these Getzens?

[musicmork]

Could ANYONE tell me the important differences between the newer Getzen Eterna 900S Classic, The Getzen Eterna Severinsen, The Getzen 700s ,and The Getzen Capri?
Brett ,if you're listening.....?????
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MARK /aka "musicmork"/ aka " The Creator "
TRUMPET: Getzen , Olds
MOUTHPIECES Bach 3-C, Schilke 13a4a
CORNET: Holton Galaxy (Awesome horn)
KEYBOARDS: Kurzweil PC88MX,Yamaha S-30, Casio Privia 575R

[Getzen]

I sent you an email about this, but I might as well put it up here for everyone else to see.

The Eterna Classic and the original 900 Severinsen are exactly the same. The Classic is made to the exact same specs using some of the original drawings as the original. We even used a few older models for measurements and comparisons.

The differences between the three current models (590, 700S, 900) are as follows.

Bell: 590 = 4 3/4" Yellow brass
700S = 4 3/4" Yellow brass
900 = 4 3/4" Yellow brass
Overall, the three bells are very close. I would have to check to be certain, but I believe the 900 has a slightly more open bell taper than a 590. The 900 and 700S bells are virtually the same.

Mouthpipe: 590 = Nickel silver
700S = Gold brass
900 = Nickel silver
In this case, the 900 and 700S mouthpipes are the same size, but made of different material. The 590 has a slightly tighter pipe.

Slide Tubes: 590 = Nickel silver insides and outsides
700S = Gold brass insides; Yellow brass outsides
900 = Nickel silver insides; Yellow brass outsides
All of the tubes are the same as far as diameter and length. The only difference is the material.

Miscellaneous: The 590 and 900 have a single tuning slide brace on the tuning slide itself. The 700S has dual tuning slide braces. One on the tuning slide and one on the leadpipe\lower tube. Also, the 900 and 590 have the same top\bottom caps while the 700S is different. The 590 is standard with a first slide trigger as well. Finally, the 900 is available in lacquer, beaded lacquer, silver, beaded silver, gold, and beaded gold. The 700S is only available in silver plate. The 590 is available in lacquer, beaded lacquer, silver, and beaded silver.


As for the specific differences between the three I am surprised to hear that the 700S was considered more responsive than the 900. I wonder if it was a newer Eterna Classic version or the older 900 that was compared to the 700S. I say this because generally, the gold brass mouthpipe and inner slides will add color to the sound, but lessen the response slightly. Also, the dual tuning slide braces generally tighten the horn a bit in terms of response. All that being said, the 700S is still a great trumpet in its own right. My best recommendation would be to try the three. If you are looking for a more professional class trumpet you might want to over look the 590 all together and focus on the 700S and 900.


Brett Getzen
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Brett Getzen
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[musicmork]

Thanks Brett,
You are a wealth of information and a good guy.
I just read both of your emails....and now I am trying to decide whether to buy another old Severinsen or a NEW 900S Classic...which you said was basically the same as the old Sev.

Here's another question.....since (IMHO) Getzen makes the best valves on Earth...how come no other brass musical instrument manufacturer has ever tried to copy them without breaking any laws?
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MARK /aka "musicmork"/ aka " The Creator "
TRUMPET: Getzen , Olds
MOUTHPIECES Bach 3-C, Schilke 13a4a
CORNET: Holton Galaxy (Awesome horn)
KEYBOARDS: Kurzweil PC88MX,Yamaha S-30, Casio Privia 575R

[BengeBoy]

May I take this opportunity to ask a question I've had for a long time?

Virtually every Eterna I've ever seen, new or old, has a silver finish. Take a look at the Eternas on eBay at any time and you'll see what I mean. Is this because almost all buyers preferred silver over lacquer, or was it available only in silver?

(Brett mentions above that the current Eterna Classic is available in lacquer, but this may not have always been the case. Brett, I'll bet that very few of the Eternas you sell now are lacquer!)

Tim
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Tim Murtaugh

Burbank Benge 3x

[Getzen]

Hmmm, that is a good question. I think that back in the day they may have only been offered in silver plate and then the option was added some time before we bought the company back. Now, we do sell more silver than anything else. This is partially because that is what most players want. Also, we push the silver version much more. We don't show lacquered 900's in the catalog, on the website, or take them to shows. Naturally, everybody just relates the Eterna to silver plating.

As for the piston question, my only answer is that they won't pay for it. It takes a lot of time and effort to make pistons the way we do. Most corporations are looking at ways to cut their labor costs not increase them.

Brett Getzen
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Brett Getzen
President
Getzen Company

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[musicmork]

Have a look here...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ETERNA-SEVERINSEN-Getzen-Trumpet-TOTAL-OVERHAULw-Finish_W0QQitemZ7339344727QQcategoryZ16214QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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MARK /aka "musicmork"/ aka " The Creator "
TRUMPET: Getzen , Olds
MOUTHPIECES Bach 3-C, Schilke 13a4a
CORNET: Holton Galaxy (Awesome horn)
KEYBOARDS: Kurzweil PC88MX,Yamaha S-30, Casio Privia 575R

[musicmork]

Why is the link I left so long? It says I have HTML off. Is THIS the reason?
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MARK /aka "musicmork"/ aka " The Creator "
TRUMPET: Getzen , Olds
MOUTHPIECES Bach 3-C, Schilke 13a4a
CORNET: Holton Galaxy (Awesome horn)
KEYBOARDS: Kurzweil PC88MX,Yamaha S-30, Casio Privia 575R

[jgadvert]

Nobody went for that overhauled horn. $650 must be too much.
Real border line. As previously posted, I have one of those few lacquer models..even better in large bore. I'd like to get mine overhauled like that.

Doc never played a silver model; right?

[musicmork]

I thought Doc alwaysplayed a silver Getzen. I watched the tonight show all the time and his horn was silver.
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MARK /aka "musicmork"/ aka " The Creator "
TRUMPET: Getzen , Olds
MOUTHPIECES Bach 3-C, Schilke 13a4a
CORNET: Holton Galaxy (Awesome horn)
KEYBOARDS: Kurzweil PC88MX,Yamaha S-30, Casio Privia 575R

[BengeBoy]

Doc played with the Tonight Show Orchestra during all of the Carson years, from the early sixties to early nineties. Did he play an Eterna during most of those years? Did he play something else in later years, after he left Getzen?
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Tim Murtaugh

Burbank Benge 3x

[musicmork]

I think Doc also played a Bel Canto at some point in time. You could probably go to GOOGLE and type in Doc's bio....and get all the answers. I am just trying to remember.
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MARK /aka "musicmork"/ aka " The Creator "
TRUMPET: Getzen , Olds
MOUTHPIECES Bach 3-C, Schilke 13a4a
CORNET: Holton Galaxy (Awesome horn)
KEYBOARDS: Kurzweil PC88MX,Yamaha S-30, Casio Privia 575R

[musicmork]

Here's a link for ya.... http://www.annonline.com/interviews/961128/biography.html

[jgadvert]

I watched Carson for years too and his horn always looked gold colored to me.

BTW: It's sort of sad that a mint looking Doc Getzen didnt sell for $650.
I mean...a mediocre looking Bach Strad fetch that much.

[Wes Clarke]

jgadvert - think it might be because it's an overhaul?