First post on the forum - tongue issue.

jamesswilcox · Regular Member Joined: 22 Apr 2010 Posts: 70

Hi to one and all.

This is my first post on the forum and I'd be most grateful of any advice. I'm very new to the trumpet, and have been having lessons for the past three months, learning TCE.

I was pretty dissatisfied with my progress and felt I was doing something wrong. I realised that my buzz was actually coming from my tongue and bottom lip and that i (I think) that my tongue is insufficiently extended so that it connects with the top lip and excludes the bottom lip.

This is what my analysis has brought up in any case.

Any advice on this analysis and corrective remedies much appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

roynj · Heavyweight Member Joined: 19 Oct 2002 Posts: 2065

TCE isn't an approach that I have seen many (if any) beginners take up as a method for playing. As for your problem, or what you think your problem may be, it's really impossible to tell without some in person evaluation from your private teacher. That being said, I am curious, is there a particular method book or studies that you are working on?

VetPsychWars · Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 6:08 pm Post subject:

I'll be the goat.

No one who is any other than a very experienced trumpet player should get anywhere near TCE. It's a very specialized method used by very experienced individuals to get a very specific result.

You might want to do that after you've been playing for some decades.

Until then, you might be better served by learning the more common, accepted methods before you try a more specialized method. Before you deviate, you need to know what you're deviating from and why, if that makes any sense to you.

Please share more about your experience, your teacher, and so forth.

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mcgovnor · Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 6:16 pm Post subject: get

Get a classically trained teacher who has worked full time as a musician and learn the fundamentals.

Jerry Freedman · Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 6:35 pm Post subject:

The Callet forum is the forum to talk about these things. Its dedicated to TCE. That being said, from my experience with Callet materials is that they are terrible. Anyone who can get anywhere with Callet's Superchops, TCE, or MSC based on his books or DVD is a genius of the highest order. I am not making any statements about whether or not these methods really work or how they sound, just that the only way to get anywhere other than confused is to study directly with Callet or Civiletti

mcgovnor · Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 6:43 pm Post subject: the

The only way for a beginner to get anywhere is to find a classically trained teacher who has worked or is working as a musician, and can communicate.
Forget the rest, good, bad or indifferent.

jhatpro · Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 6:54 pm Post subject:

Welcome to TH! Get a teacher. You'll go nuts trying to figure things out on your own. I know.
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jamesswilcox · Regular Member Joined: 22 Apr 2010 Posts: 70

Thanks for the generous replies.

I do have a teacher, a professional musician, long-time player, and importantly, an excellent communicator. I'm very pleased with him. My horn is a '57 Olds Ambassador, brought from your fine country, with a Bach 7cw.

The reference to the Callet forum is one which I'll pursue to investigate my particular issue. It's an interesting question as to whether TCE is appropriate for an absolute beginner. One might go either way: too specialised for a beginner, or e.g. if it's a system worth learning, learn first.

I really am loathed to say much else given my immaturity and ignorance in trumpet matters, as I'm bound to put my foot in it, so let's take my encounter with TCE as something of an experiment. I'll drop you guys an email in Jan 2011 so we can see what progress I've made in 12 months with TCE....

Best,

James