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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

These are two of my favorite recordings on flugel.

Remembering Roy Hargrove. Roy playing I Remember Clifford on his Inderbinen flugel (Wood model).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqdnupOB3dE

Til Bronner playing After Midnight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tt_SmF0xbJg
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's sad for me to listen to Roy playing "I Remember Clifford." This performance was the best of everything Roy was. The first time I heard him I was extremely impressed by his sound, his concepts, everything that came out of his horn was intellectual and beautiful. Then I saw him live at Lincoln Center with Cedar Walton. Drugs had reduced him to a shadow of what he had been. It was extremely depressing to watch and listen to it. I had taken a very dear friend to the performance and afterwards she asked me what I thought. My response was simply that sometimes players have an off night, that the horn can be brutal, that a lot of things can go wrong and that Roy was a great player when things were working. I didn't mention Roy's drug issue to her.

This was a life that was ruined and cut short by drugs, by people who, well meaning as they may have been, were not sufficiently motivated to take control and get this amazing talent back on the right path when his drug issues were so obvious. It was a tragedy.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Till Bronner performance of "'Round Midnight": How does it get any better than that? Absolutely brilliant!!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roy on Clifford, as good of a sound I’ve ever heard. So so so amazing, and so sad he’s not here. Thanks for sharing that!!!!

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Markus Stockhausen is always worth listening ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1Zt6KmI260
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcyDp01ldKQ
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 3:03 pm    Post subject: Clark Reply with quote

Clark Terry.
One of the greatest plunger artists of all time as well.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vwag wrote:
Roy on Clifford, as good of a sound I’ve ever heard. So so so amazing, and so sad he’s not here. Thanks for sharing that!!!!



Yeah I quite enjoyed that too!
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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2019 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1) Scott Tinkler
2) Peter Evans
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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2019 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most people play Flugel because their trumpet sound is thin, very common in big band as a cover up. For me Freddie Hubbard and Kenny Wheeler are the guys that really play the flugel with more than a soppy romantic weakness that is more Kenny G style. Of course CT is amazing too plus had a trp sound to die for.

Personally if I were to use flugel I’d not use a deep flugel mpc but rather a cornet cup, not Dennis Wick ffs. I think in the British brass band tradition this was very common, rumours say this is what Kenny Wheeler did too.
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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2019 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BraeGrimes wrote:
1) Scott Tinkler
2) Peter Evans


Never heard either of them on Flugel?
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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2019 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinky wrote:
BraeGrimes wrote:
1) Scott Tinkler
2) Peter Evans


Never heard either of them on Flugel?


I've heard Scott Tinkler play Christmas Carols on Flugelhorn and it was pretty amazing. Never heard Peter Evans play flugelhorn, but I bet he could and would be amazing. So, I guess you could say he's the best flugelhorner nobody has ever heard before.

I also like Adam Bandt and Richard di Natale.
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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2019 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Freddie Hubbard, Donald Byrd, Clark Terry.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 2:48 am    Post subject: Flugelhorn Sounds Reply with quote

TILL BRONNER, of BOTH flugelhorn & trumpet. Dude can play with an incredibly controlled & brilliant sub-tone on both...
Check out “Ballad for a Friend” on YouTube: https://youtu.be/DmqDUbNUfxk

And this too on muted trumpet: https://youtu.be/CAD1QTbfUW8

I wanna know what kind of flugelhorn AND which Harmon he uses!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow. What a list. Looks like a whole course in flugel here. An amazing thread and some amazing music. Thanks for the flugel education.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HERMOKIWI wrote:
This was a life that was ruined and cut short by drugs, by people who, well meaning as they may have been, were not sufficiently motivated to take control and get this amazing talent back on the right path when his drug issues were so obvious. It was a tragedy.


With all due respect to you, brother, as I understand it, Roy died of kidney disease, not drug abuse. He had a hard and in some ways tragic life, but blaming drug abuse for his demise does him a disservice. He was a great musician and a serious person.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bobby Shew has such a great sound and musicality !
and as underrated ones,
jerry Van Blair
and Michel Marre https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X-vr09BiYo
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Freddie, all the way!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

djpearlman wrote:
HERMOKIWI wrote:
This was a life that was ruined and cut short by drugs, by people who, well meaning as they may have been, were not sufficiently motivated to take control and get this amazing talent back on the right path when his drug issues were so obvious. It was a tragedy.


With all due respect to you, brother, as I understand it, Roy died of kidney disease, not drug abuse. He had a hard and in some ways tragic life, but blaming drug abuse for his demise does him a disservice. He was a great musician and a serious person.


You're kidding, right? Roy was a hard core drug addict. It was a well known fact. His kidney disease was a product of his drug abuse. Drug abuse was a major contributing cause of his demise.

The fact that he was a drug addict doesn't diminish the fact that he was a great musician and a serious person and I never said anything to the contrary.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as flugelhorn sound goes it HAS to be the great Clark Terry. He had a gorgeous big warm sound.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rpoutan wrote:

Remembering Roy Hargrove. Roy playing I Remember Clifford on his Inderbinen flugel (Wood model).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqdnupOB3dE


Just listened to this again and man, what a great performance!!
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