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rpoutan Veteran Member
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HERMOKIWI Heavyweight Member
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It's sad for me to listen to Roy playing "I Remember Clifford." This performance was the best of everything Roy was. The first time I heard him I was extremely impressed by his sound, his concepts, everything that came out of his horn was intellectual and beautiful. Then I saw him live at Lincoln Center with Cedar Walton. Drugs had reduced him to a shadow of what he had been. It was extremely depressing to watch and listen to it. I had taken a very dear friend to the performance and afterwards she asked me what I thought. My response was simply that sometimes players have an off night, that the horn can be brutal, that a lot of things can go wrong and that Roy was a great player when things were working. I didn't mention Roy's drug issue to her.
This was a life that was ruined and cut short by drugs, by people who, well meaning as they may have been, were not sufficiently motivated to take control and get this amazing talent back on the right path when his drug issues were so obvious. It was a tragedy. _________________ HERMOKIWI |
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HERMOKIWI Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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The Till Bronner performance of "'Round Midnight": How does it get any better than that? Absolutely brilliant!! _________________ HERMOKIWI |
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vwag Veteran Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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Roy on Clifford, as good of a sound I’ve ever heard. So so so amazing, and so sad he’s not here. Thanks for sharing that!!!!
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TrpM Regular Member
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LowerSlower Regular Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 3:03 pm Post subject: Clark |
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Clark Terry.
One of the greatest plunger artists of all time as well. _________________ "Jazz is not dead, it just smells funny"
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mrhappy Veteran Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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vwag wrote: | Roy on Clifford, as good of a sound I’ve ever heard. So so so amazing, and so sad he’s not here. Thanks for sharing that!!!!
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Yeah I quite enjoyed that too! _________________ MH |
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BraeGrimes Veteran Member
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Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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1) Scott Tinkler
2) Peter Evans |
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stinky New Member
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Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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Most people play Flugel because their trumpet sound is thin, very common in big band as a cover up. For me Freddie Hubbard and Kenny Wheeler are the guys that really play the flugel with more than a soppy romantic weakness that is more Kenny G style. Of course CT is amazing too plus had a trp sound to die for.
Personally if I were to use flugel I’d not use a deep flugel mpc but rather a cornet cup, not Dennis Wick ffs. I think in the British brass band tradition this was very common, rumours say this is what Kenny Wheeler did too. _________________ Play hard |
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stinky New Member
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Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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BraeGrimes wrote: | 1) Scott Tinkler
2) Peter Evans |
Never heard either of them on Flugel? _________________ Play hard |
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BraeGrimes Veteran Member
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Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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stinky wrote: | BraeGrimes wrote: | 1) Scott Tinkler
2) Peter Evans |
Never heard either of them on Flugel? |
I've heard Scott Tinkler play Christmas Carols on Flugelhorn and it was pretty amazing. Never heard Peter Evans play flugelhorn, but I bet he could and would be amazing. So, I guess you could say he's the best flugelhorner nobody has ever heard before.
I also like Adam Bandt and Richard di Natale. |
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Bill Ortiz Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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Freddie Hubbard, Donald Byrd, Clark Terry. _________________ '56 Martin Committee Deluxe #2 trumpet
14B Schilke mouthpiece
Couesnon Paris flugelhorn
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kenwatters Veteran Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 2:48 am Post subject: Flugelhorn Sounds |
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TILL BRONNER, of BOTH flugelhorn & trumpet. Dude can play with an incredibly controlled & brilliant sub-tone on both...
Check out “Ballad for a Friend” on YouTube: https://youtu.be/DmqDUbNUfxk
And this too on muted trumpet: https://youtu.be/CAD1QTbfUW8
I wanna know what kind of flugelhorn AND which Harmon he uses! _________________ - Jupiter XO 1602
- Jupiter XO flugel
- Old Bach 72L raw brass (stripped) Bb tpt |
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cgaiii Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:44 am Post subject: |
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Wow. What a list. Looks like a whole course in flugel here. An amazing thread and some amazing music. Thanks for the flugel education. _________________ Bb: Schilke X3L AS SP, Yamaha YTR-6335S
C: Schilke CXL, Kanstul 1510-2
Picc: Kanstul 920
Bb Bugle: Kanstul
Bb Pocket: Manchester Brass
Flugel: Taylor Standard
Bass Trumpet: BAC Custom
Natural Tr: Custom Haas replica by Nikolai Mänttäri Morales |
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djpearlman Veteran Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:02 am Post subject: |
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HERMOKIWI wrote: | This was a life that was ruined and cut short by drugs, by people who, well meaning as they may have been, were not sufficiently motivated to take control and get this amazing talent back on the right path when his drug issues were so obvious. It was a tragedy. |
With all due respect to you, brother, as I understand it, Roy died of kidney disease, not drug abuse. He had a hard and in some ways tragic life, but blaming drug abuse for his demise does him a disservice. He was a great musician and a serious person. _________________ Dan Pearlman
Santa Fe, NM
- Monette Cornette
- Andalusia Cornet
- Carolbrass Pocket Trumpet
- Monette mouthpieces
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5NafoVeXrsRm-fOhKaIpnA |
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JVL Heavyweight Member
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theslawdawg Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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Freddie, all the way! _________________ My go-to Trumpet and Flugel: Thane.
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HERMOKIWI Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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djpearlman wrote: | HERMOKIWI wrote: | This was a life that was ruined and cut short by drugs, by people who, well meaning as they may have been, were not sufficiently motivated to take control and get this amazing talent back on the right path when his drug issues were so obvious. It was a tragedy. |
With all due respect to you, brother, as I understand it, Roy died of kidney disease, not drug abuse. He had a hard and in some ways tragic life, but blaming drug abuse for his demise does him a disservice. He was a great musician and a serious person. |
You're kidding, right? Roy was a hard core drug addict. It was a well known fact. His kidney disease was a product of his drug abuse. Drug abuse was a major contributing cause of his demise.
The fact that he was a drug addict doesn't diminish the fact that he was a great musician and a serious person and I never said anything to the contrary. _________________ HERMOKIWI |
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daveboa Regular Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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As far as flugelhorn sound goes it HAS to be the great Clark Terry. He had a gorgeous big warm sound. |
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mrhappy Veteran Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 9:31 am Post subject: |
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Just listened to this again and man, what a great performance!! _________________ MH |
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