Removing laquer

BrassIgloo · Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 9:13 am Post subject: Removing laquer

I would like to know what "the guys" on TH use to take off old laquer from vintage horns? I remember someone using the dishwasher. Is there a particular paint stripper/laquer remover that is easy to use?

thanks!

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BrassIgloo · Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 9:14 am Post subject:

opps!! Lacquer.....

Merry Christmas!!
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rolling360 · Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 11:55 am Post subject: lacquer

The best way I found to remove lacquer is to sell the horn and buy a silver one!

Robert Rowe · Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 7:37 pm Post subject:

There are literally dozens of "THreads" here on the forum that cover this topic.

Enter "lacquer" and/or "lacquer-removal" in the search function.

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michael manthey · Heavyweight Member Joined: 23 Dec 2005 Posts: 1116

BIXX STRIPPER

You can get it at a Wal-Mart / K-Mart ... read the directions and stay well ventalated. I removed the lacquer on one of my horns using this stuff & it worked fine.

Is there a reason you're wanting to remove the lacquer?
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BrassIgloo · Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 7:48 am Post subject:

Thanks Micheal. I have some vintage horns where the lacquer is in blotches and they would look better without the lacquer.
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belagozzo · Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 11:01 am Post subject:

I have tested alot of different stripping chems..but if you have tough lacquer then I would use AIRCRAFT Stripper(Liquid gel, not sprayon)..you can buy it at any Auto Parts store..and it will take literally Minutes or less for the lacquer to fall off..use well ventilation...the walmart stuff unless you find something good takes to long..
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aremick · Regular Member Joined: 20 Mar 2006 Posts: 81

Got some great lacquer remover stuff from ACE hardware. Strip it down (mechanically), spray it, let it sit for 30 minutes, then run it through the dishwasher...

Lacquer all gone!

BrassIgloo · Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 6:53 pm Post subject:

Dear aremike,
Can you remember the product name by any chance?

thanks,
Ruth
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aremick · Regular Member Joined: 20 Mar 2006 Posts: 81

Crown, paint and lacquer (or maybe varnish) remover

jpetrocelli · Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 8:18 am Post subject:

Buy a 7 gallon pot (about $50) and boil it without the valves.
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Robert Rowe · Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 8:26 am Post subject:

trmptz · Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:21 am Post subject: Removing laquer

The best that I've ever found is the Aircraft Stripper. Like the other trumpeter said, the lacquer pretty much falls off the horn. Then just give it a good hot bath with some lemon type detergent and your done! I've done a few horns like this and found it to be the easiest around. Ciao!

jpetrocelli · Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:27 pm Post subject:

Bill Bryant · Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:37 pm Post subject:

If the horn has cellulose lacquer it can be removed with hot water. I removed the lacquer from a 1974 Getzen with hot tap water in the bathtub (by accident!).

If the horn has epoxy lacquer you'll need something like methylene chloride (nasty stuff) and lots of ventilation.

Robert Rowe · Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 2:28 pm Post subject:

topo3man · Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 4:57 pm Post subject:

Methyl-ethyl ketone Robert? That brings back memories. My stepfather was a chemical engineer and he used that stuff to clean everything. It is a carcinogen, of course, and very aromatic. Of course it would explain the soldering leadpipes (I mean mouthpipes) thread

I hope all is well. I was in the Hamptons last week!

Albert Parrott · Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 5:44 pm Post subject:

Most of the lacquer removers commercially available are combinations of several solvents, some of which may be carcinogenic (capable of causing cancer). Methylene chloride and chloroform are a couple that require special handling. Many of the commercial paint and lacquer removers contain methylene chloride and should be used with very good ventilation. I use them outdoors. Epoxy lacquers especially will need a solvent of this type if you expect to attack it. Pure solvents such as MEK or toluene can remove some paints and lacquers, but a combination of solvents, as in commercial packages, is often faster or more powerful.

BUT, methyl ethyl ketone (MEK) is NOT a know carcinogen. A typical manufacturer's safetey data sheet (MSDS) confirms this.

http://www.jtbaker.com/msds/englishhtml/m4628.htm

Neither is MEK "aromatic", or even unsaturated, in the chemists' vernacular. And yes, I are one. I don't mean to be a critic, just want the facts to speak for themselves.

topo3man · Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 6:26 pm Post subject:

I stand corrected Albert. Just the rants of a biologist, not a chemist. I was actually refering to the vapors of MEK and used the term aromatic incorrectly, I guess volatile would be the better word. I also was thinking more in terms of mutagen rather than carcinogen since if you read the Baker insert you can clearly see that MEK causes birth defects in animals. I'll sleep better tonight knowing it's not a carcinogen though.

Robert Rowe · Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 7:32 pm Post subject:

Unfortunately, I won't sleep all that well tonight ....

I have used MEK, with recommended precautions implemented. I call the vapors "noxious" (my term), and they are extremely potent on my hyper-sensitive respiratory system. Instant headaches!

I have been a bachelor for more than 20 years ... might be some "little Roberts" out-there (?). Hope none are mutants. Bad enough they might have all my "regular / normal" chromosomes.

Robt
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