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Mr Pink
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 Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 9:00 am Post subject: the stevens-costello method |
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Hi!
I´ve been reading about the Stevens-Costello method here in the forum.
Does anybody have a copy of it in PDF-format? I`ve been looking for it for some time but it´s really hard to find. |
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Stevens-Costello
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| I would like to see what its all about. |
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LeeC
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| goldenboy3 wrote: | | I would like to see what its all about. |
Stevens-Costello or sometimes known as the Roy Stevens system. Book is out of print titled "Stevens-Costello Embouchure Self Analysis and Triple C Technique" or something like that. 188 pages. Fairly expensive book back in the day (1970's)
It is essentially a forward jaw embouchure utilizing more lower lip than upper. Roy Stevens insisted that the air stream be directed upwards in the mouthpiece and that a specific set of physical laws applied to this embouchure. Of much significance was the maintenance of a rather open space between the upper and lower teeth.
Students were directed to begin playing in the extreme upper register FIRST and then worked up from lower pitches eventually combining musicality and strength. The horn was placed on the palm of the hand in Stevens-Costello and very soft sounding squeaks were produced at notes in excess even of Double C.
If you read Reinhardt the Stevens embouchure is virtually the same as one of the four basic embouchures. The Type IV or type 4 upstream.
Receded jaw playing was not accepted by Stevens and part of the reason for the relatively high attrition rate associated with Stevens system.
However if you fit the mold it would make a damn fine screamer out of you quick. Success stories from rags to riches walked in and out of Roy's studio daily. Roy Roman being one of them. Went from an embouchure "basket case" to one of the most unlimited powerful lead/scream players around.
Am told the Phil Driscoll utilized the program.
A friend of mine from college flipped me out. After studying with Roy in person for just three months he leaned to blow triple C's off the palm of his hand.
Regardless of whether or not you can play forward jaw or not much of Roy's "physical law" is applicable to any player. |
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Dale Olson:
| Quote: | Farkas wrote that the “in the lip muscles” and the “out of the lip muscles” are pitted against each other. Farkas referred to this as a “drawstring”, or “tug-of-war” theory.
Roy Stevens, however, taught the opposite. Stevens taught that greater muscle activity occurred in the muscles outside the lips.
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Which teacher was correct?
When White and Basmajian did their electromyographic study in 1972 was the matter resolved. White and Basmajian showed that, among professional players, there was greater activity in the “out-of-the-lip” muscles than the “in-the-lip” muscles.
The accuracy of Stevens’ theory was supported by scientific investigation.
More on Dale Olson's lecture here: http://www.kanstul.com/pages/daleolson/
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Thank for the info OJ.
It's one of those matters easily provable without electronic probes, charts, graphs or radiology.
Squeeze the inner portions of your chops together as hard as possible and try and play even one note. You won't be able to do it.
The inner vibrating portions of the lips must remain relatively loose even on the highest of notes. Otherwise there is no sound. |
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| LeeC wrote: | | Stevens-Costello or sometimes known as the Roy Stevens system. Book is out of print titled "Stevens-Costello Embouchure Self Analysis and Triple C Technique" or something like that. |
On the contrary. This book is currently available from Charles Colin.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 8:06 am Post subject: Method |
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I don't think it'll work for pple with bottom teeth crooked ( like me )  |
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Alas, I've always (apparently) used the Abbott/Costello method
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| trumpet cat wrote: | | LeeC wrote: | | Stevens-Costello or sometimes known as the Roy Stevens system. Book is out of print titled "Stevens-Costello Embouchure Self Analysis and Triple C Technique" or something like that. |
On the contrary. This book is currently available from Charles Colin.
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Link please?
I can't find with several searches on google.
Or perhaps a physical address/phone number if the source is not online.
Thanks
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| pipedope wrote: | | trumpet cat wrote: | | LeeC wrote: | | Stevens-Costello or sometimes known as the Roy Stevens system. Book is out of print titled "Stevens-Costello Embouchure Self Analysis and Triple C Technique" or something like that. |
On the contrary. This book is currently available from Charles Colin.
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Link please? |
No direct link that I could find, but call Charles Colin Music at (212) 581-1480. They have the book.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 7:37 pm Post subject: costello |
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But the book to get was the original Costello book.
It was paperback, and it was really great.
Chas Colin used to have them, decades ago, and some of Roy's older students may have copies.
If anyone finds one, please let me know via email. I gave mine to a student in 1977, and haven't seen one since.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 8:02 pm Post subject: stevens costello |
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My roomate just posted on u tube a triple C doing this. It is possible. I can't so it, but he can. It does work. It's what Roger Ingram does as well as the Wedge.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 8:28 pm Post subject: Re: costello |
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| mcgovnor wrote: | | But the book to get was the original Costello book. |
Mike
The book I bought from Colin recently may not be exactly what you are talking about, but you might find that it has all the stuff you're looking for. If you want, stop over to my place and you can check it out.
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| dershem wrote: | Alas, I've always (apparently) used the Abbott/Costello method
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Hi friends could any of you send me the pdf its very interesting I have never seen the book,
Thanks
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| trumpet cat wrote: | | pipedope wrote: | | trumpet cat wrote: | | LeeC wrote: | | Stevens-Costello or sometimes known as the Roy Stevens system. Book is out of print titled "Stevens-Costello Embouchure Self Analysis and Triple C Technique" or something like that. |
On the contrary. This book is currently available from Charles Colin.
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Link please? |
No direct link that I could find, but call Charles Colin Music at (212) 581-1480. They have the book.
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Thanks, that will work. |
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| I'd like a copy of the method, if possible PM'ed to me please. Not looking for a major reform, just want to see what its all about. |
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Me as well pretty please
I'd also like to see what it's all about 
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