Arban vs Clarke

Frasse · Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 6:51 am Post subject: Arban vs Clarke

Hi,

I wonder what differences, if any, there is between the Arban and Clark studies?

I am currently using Arban as a part of my daily practice, and now I'm wondering what, if anyting, I would gain from adding some Clarke aswell.

Anyone?

Dr.Rico · Veteran Member Joined: 12 Sep 2007 Posts: 274

Well.. it certainly wouldn't hurt. Using the Arban's for it's lyrical studies and the Clarke for its technical would be a nice balance, and will keep you from getting tired of one book or the other. I've found using the Clarke book studies at high tempos help with finger dexterity and flexibility, as well as a boost in endurance once you've mastered using your air properly.

Of course, I have only the experience of 5 and a half years of trumpet playing under my belt(6th grade until 11th thus far), so those more experienced wiser than me could be of more help, I'm sure.
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jonalan · Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 7:03 am Post subject:

Clarke should definitely be incorporated into your daily routine; along with Arban (and Schlossberg, and Irons, and Colin, and Mitchell.....). Clarke focuses on embouchure strength and endurance, as well as technique, finger dexterity, air support, etc.
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Shaft · Heavyweight Member Joined: 19 Sep 2006 Posts: 982

Hey there,
Many trumpet books have been written. You will start to see material that is copied from one method and inserted into another. You can tell what exercises accomplish by how they are written. Slurs, articulations, intervals, multiple tonguing, etc. You just want to arrange your practice time to cover the various aspects of playing.

I recommend that you practice out of both the Arban and Clarke. Schlossberg is another good one to have. There are plenty more out there but you will get a lot of mileage out of those three.

Have fun

Frasse · Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 8:26 am Post subject:

You bet I will

So Clarke contains alot exercises for strength, technique, fingering, air support a.s.o...

In what way does this differ from the Arban studies? When I take a look in my Arban-book I see pretty much exercises that seem to be good for those things aswell (by my relative unexperienced eyes anyway).
Note: I havent seen the Clarke book, as I would have to walk 200 km to get to the nearest trumpet-store to look at it.

Btw. Thanks for the answers!

Nickyboy2 · Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 10:01 am Post subject:

I prefer Clarke studies for the finger flexibility studies. I use Arban's for the etudes in the back and scale exercises; Schlosberg is used for intervals, Irons for lip slurs, Chicowicz flow studies for warm up, air and strength, Concone for lyrical studies and transposition (if #x where written in c, transpose it for Bb). I also have a disney book that I use for fun when I want to get out of my study habit. I use Clarke the most out of them all, I find it to be the most fun part of my practice routine and I would consider it a vital part of every trumpet players arsenal of practice material.
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pelirrojo173 · Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 10:16 am Post subject:

I spend a ridiculous amount of time on Clarke studies, they'll do wonders for your playing.

I don't think you can really compare these books and say which one is better... They go hand in hand, and every trumpet player should have them both IMO

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Tyler Williams · Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:37 pm Post subject:

You probably want to start working on the 14 Characteristic Studies in the Arban book. My trumpet profesor, Galindo Rodriguez, is having me work on all 14 for my freshman year, and in fact, he wants me to be able to play each one back to back. Ever since I started working on the them, I have noticed a huge and quick increase in embouchure strength, endurance and as a bonus, sightreading. Also, the Clarke book helps out with endurance and familiarity with fingerings. What I especially like to do is tweak Clarke's 2nd study by playing it in minor, dorian, dominant eighth, diminished seventh, blues scale, and the hardest, (for me) chromatic.
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bilboinsa · Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 6:08 am Post subject: Re: Arban vs Clarke

Craig Swartz · Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 6:17 am Post subject:

Mastering Clarke and all those nasty finger crosses will allow people to perform the Characteristic Studies in Arbans, the Smith book and most solo literature better because you are able to embark from firm foundation. It is similar to learning all of the addition, subtraction, multiplication and division tables rather than memorize only those that are needed for the current problem. I find I need to do Clarke of some kind almost daily or things get rusty quickly. I think I've been using them for 38 years now and I still have much room to improve.

skootchy · Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 8:33 am Post subject:

arttrumpet · Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 6:00 am Post subject: arban vs clarke

John Holifield · Veteran Member Joined: 17 Oct 2008 Posts: 291

I know I'm reviving an old thread but I'm doing it anyway, lol.

If I only had one book, it would definitely be the Arban's. 2 would be Clarke's along with Arban's. 3 would be 27 Groups of Exercises with Clarke's and Arban's. To me after many years of study and teaching the 3 aforementioned books are a great foundation to superior playing! Other books like the St. Jacome, Smith's Flexibilities, Colin etc. are just extras. Claude Gordon had a way of progressively working through each of these books in conjunction with each other in a progressive manor that if practiced properly and thoroughly would yield a great foundation that one could literately develop into a true professional and dare I say, virtuoso!
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Jeff_Purtle · Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:23 am Post subject:

Claude Gordon used to say, "There are two things a trumpet player can't live without: Clarke's Technical Studies and love."

Doc Severinsen said something similar to me too: "A trumpet player needs Clarke's Technical Studies and milk everyday."

Clarke's Technical Studies is a never-ending journey because the book has so many layers of development to extract from it if you cover it patiently and systematically. Everything in that book is doable in regards to tempo and breath control if you just take the time to do it properly.

Arban is also a fantastic book. Arban and St. Jacome for a long time were the only method books that the cornet legends had. Get St. Jacome too and look at the concept of "models" that appears on page 157 and you can apply to Arban too. There are a bunch of great books to have in your library and it's important to have a strategy to use them with a smart practice routine to systematically work through them and gain the knowledge and wisdom from them.
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rufflicks · Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:48 pm Post subject:

Bro,

Don't walk... Click!!!

https://www.scribd.com/doc/164468318/H-L-Clarke-Technical-studies-for-Trumpet-pdf

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