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Hack001 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 20 Jun 2004 Posts: 1685
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:33 am Post subject: Berp Bio Oil |
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I'm surprised this has not yet been mentioned on this forum. I bought a bottle at the Midwest Conference... wow. What's best is that it is completely organic - no petroleum even. Nothing to get in my lungs and make it even harder to breathe... anyway.. here's the link if anyone wants to check it out.
http://www.berp.com/berpbiooil.html
No.. I'm not getting paid. It is just working great so far for me. _________________ Practicing is for the insecure. |
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ertatta Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 856
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:19 am Post subject: |
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yes i definitly agree! been using this for almost a year since emile gave me a sample and i find it to work as well as anything else out there with the added benefit of being eco-freindly. it's definitly less messy and has a nice clean lemony scent to it as well. |
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Morbo Heavyweight Member
Joined: 12 Aug 2007 Posts: 599
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:25 am Post subject: |
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hmm, i was pretty sure petroleum was organic. _________________ "Windmills do not work that way!" |
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Hack001 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 20 Jun 2004 Posts: 1685
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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Morbo wrote: | hmm, i was pretty sure petroleum was organic. |
I wouldn't ingest it, though... _________________ Practicing is for the insecure. |
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Shemp Regular Member
Joined: 14 Oct 2006 Posts: 65 Location: Balsam Grove, NC
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:15 pm Post subject: careful! |
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Boys, I have it on good authority that this oil is nothing more than rendered weasel fat! (You know.."weasel, the other yellow meat!"). It may be good eatin' when freshly kilt, but that grease'll turn rancid in your valves, I expect.
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Nascar Trumpeter Regular Member
Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Posts: 83 Location: Hoover, AL
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:28 am Post subject: |
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Hey there Fellers,
Well I'll be....this hear trumpet company has finally cought on to somethin' I've been using for years.....weasel fat. Now, I've not been cookin' it down enought to make it into an oil, but it sure does werk great for me as slide grease! I figured it out when I was at Talledega watchin' some test runnin' one day. I kept gettin' down neear the pits and shouting to the crews askign them what they was usin on they're axels. The feller kept shoutin sumthin about a weasel at me, so I figured I'd go home and try it. Like SHemp hear, I had some in my fridge. Also, since I play a Wild Thing trumpet I figured that I should used a "wild thing" to lube it up. Some how it just seemed fitting. Anyway, I cooked it down.....the dogs sure ran like hell from the kitchen....and put it on and my oh my does this stuff werk. Now I don't really catch me enough weasels to make this something I can make for many people, but if any of you want some gimme a shout. Weasel's really pretty tasty to. I like to make mine in a simbple stew...carrots, onion, garlic, salt pepper, taters, celery and some curry powder. How do you make yours Shemp?Now I do't know anything about this hear company making the valve oil. They must have a weasel farm or something, cause I never get more than about ten of em a year. I mainly hunt koons....a little more meat ya know. Anyway, the only connection I can see is that Weasel makes me Berp.....is that where they got that there name?
Have a good one Fellers.
-Cletus _________________ C. Ford
Horns:
Wild Thing Bb Trumpet
Getzen 850 Cornet
Mouthpieces:
Bach 5c trumpet
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Miketpt Heavyweight Member
Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 563 Location: Seattle, Washington USA
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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Just got a used bach C in the mail. After using Hetman on the valves, they immediately gummed up and were practically immovable. I contacted the seller, who told me he had been using the BERP bio oil. Be careful with this oil if you mix with other lubricants!!!!!!!!
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Bruin Heavyweight Member
Joined: 21 Mar 2008 Posts: 1346 Location: L.A. area
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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I'm a complete convert to Berp Bio Oil now. It's the only oil I've tried thus far that works great on ALL of my different horns, outlasts others that I've tried, and I also appreciate that it's made from canola and has a nice citrus scent, too. _________________ '64 Conn Connstellation 38B
Jupiter 846S flugelhorn
CarolBrass Mini Pocket Trumpet
Schilke 17& 17D4d4 trumpet mpcs
Schilke 17F flugelhorn mpc |
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DezynGuy Veteran Member
Joined: 06 Jan 2009 Posts: 107 Location: Burlingame, CA
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:34 am Post subject: |
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Bruin wrote: | I also appreciate that it's made from canola |
Actually, it's made from soy. And you must clean your valves with soap and water to remove all other traces of previous lubricants before applying this incredible product!!
This stuff is fantastic! _________________ Bach Stradivarius 43
Bach NY #7
Getzen Eterna Severinsen
Getzen Genesis
'41 Martin Handcraft Committee
'46 Martin Committee Deluxe
'48 Martin Committee Deluxe #3 (LB)
'54 Martin Committee Standard
Selmer Paris Flugelhorn |
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Bruin Heavyweight Member
Joined: 21 Mar 2008 Posts: 1346 Location: L.A. area
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:51 am Post subject: |
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DezynGuy wrote: | Bruin wrote: | I also appreciate that it's made from canola |
Actually, it's made from soy. And you must clean your valves with soap and water to remove all other traces of previous lubricants before applying this incredible product!!
This stuff is fantastic! |
Nope, not based on a somewhat recent e-mail exchange with their company. They said that they used to use soy, but found canola oil to be superior to soy. There was this discrepancy on their vs. Canadian Brass' websites. They've since updated their info, or should have. _________________ '64 Conn Connstellation 38B
Jupiter 846S flugelhorn
CarolBrass Mini Pocket Trumpet
Schilke 17& 17D4d4 trumpet mpcs
Schilke 17F flugelhorn mpc |
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DezynGuy Veteran Member
Joined: 06 Jan 2009 Posts: 107 Location: Burlingame, CA
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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Guess I got the last of the batch....the 3 bottles I purchased yesterday are soy. _________________ Bach Stradivarius 43
Bach NY #7
Getzen Eterna Severinsen
Getzen Genesis
'41 Martin Handcraft Committee
'46 Martin Committee Deluxe
'48 Martin Committee Deluxe #3 (LB)
'54 Martin Committee Standard
Selmer Paris Flugelhorn |
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Bruin Heavyweight Member
Joined: 21 Mar 2008 Posts: 1346 Location: L.A. area
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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DezynGuy wrote: | Guess I got the last of the batch....the 3 bottles I purchased yesterday are soy. |
Maybe you did. I bought 6 bottles about 3 weeks ago from Canadian Brass. Their website says, "now made from canola, a renewable resource grown and manufactured in the U.S.A." Berp's own website avoids using the words "soy" and "canola," and instead simply says, "A non-petroleum, non-synthetic biodegradable lubricant for the valves of brass instruments."
A guy at TrumpetMaster and I had this discussion. He e-mailed the company, and that's where he got the above info re: no longer using soy. Did you buy from Berp or Canadian Brass, or elsewhere?
Berp's website also says, "It is recommended that you clean your instrument as you normally would every two weeks or so to prevent build-up. BerpBioOil does not evaporate the same way as petroleum-based oils." I never clean my horn this often. I hope this doesn't mean that I'm now going to have to (doubt it -- I haven't thus far). _________________ '64 Conn Connstellation 38B
Jupiter 846S flugelhorn
CarolBrass Mini Pocket Trumpet
Schilke 17& 17D4d4 trumpet mpcs
Schilke 17F flugelhorn mpc |
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Hack001 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 20 Jun 2004 Posts: 1685
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 5:21 am Post subject: |
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I've been using berp for nearly as long as it has been out. Whenever I re-apply (which is very little), I just thoroughly rinse the valves and valve casings; I don't wash it any more than I used to. _________________ Practicing is for the insecure. |
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Bruin Heavyweight Member
Joined: 21 Mar 2008 Posts: 1346 Location: L.A. area
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:28 am Post subject: |
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Hack001 wrote: | I've been using berp for nearly as long as it has been out. Whenever I re-apply (which is very little), I just thoroughly rinse the valves and valve casings; I don't wash it any more than I used to. |
Hack001, thanks for this info. By the way, since you've been using Berp Bio Oil for so long, can you shed any light on the soy vs. canola oil issue for DezynGuy, me, and whoever else might be curious? In either case, I love this stuff (duh, I just bought 6 more bottles a few weeks ago). It works great on ALL of my horns.
Thanks. _________________ '64 Conn Connstellation 38B
Jupiter 846S flugelhorn
CarolBrass Mini Pocket Trumpet
Schilke 17& 17D4d4 trumpet mpcs
Schilke 17F flugelhorn mpc |
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Hack001 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 7:23 am Post subject: |
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They haven't used soy for a while. I always order straight from the Berp website. I think I remember them saying that canola was a better, more consistent base than soy. I've found that the canola-based oil is slightly more viscous than the soy-based oil. _________________ Practicing is for the insecure. |
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DezynGuy Veteran Member
Joined: 06 Jan 2009 Posts: 107 Location: Burlingame, CA
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Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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...you can cook with both, guess that's what really counts! _________________ Bach Stradivarius 43
Bach NY #7
Getzen Eterna Severinsen
Getzen Genesis
'41 Martin Handcraft Committee
'46 Martin Committee Deluxe
'48 Martin Committee Deluxe #3 (LB)
'54 Martin Committee Standard
Selmer Paris Flugelhorn |
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saxophonist56 Veteran Member
Joined: 17 Apr 2013 Posts: 193 Location: ca
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Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 7:00 am Post subject: |
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i put berp oil on without cleaning the old oil off.....made my third valve stick.....even after i cleaned it. i guess operator error? |
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Turkle Heavyweight Member
Joined: 29 Apr 2008 Posts: 2450 Location: New York City
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Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 7:56 am Post subject: |
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I used to use Berp oil. I had some valve corrosion issues and Berp took care of that for me.
It worked amazingly well for a while. But after many months of use, it gummed up my valves so that they just plain stuck all the time.
A tech suggested that the Berp oils build up a film over time. Also, since it's made of natural materials, they can break down over time and if you buy an old bottle that's been sitting around a while it can perform very poorly.
I had my horns professionally cleaned and switched to Yamaha synthetic oil and have been very happy since. _________________ Yamaha 8310Z trumpet
Yamaha 8310Z flugel
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saxophonist56 Veteran Member
Joined: 17 Apr 2013 Posts: 193 Location: ca
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Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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per josh landress brass...berp is way too thick for new modern horns. it is basically for old vintage horns. large tolerances in the valve block only. hetman one cleared up all my problems with my adams a9. and is recomended for new horns by landress brass. |
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Richard III Heavyweight Member
Joined: 22 May 2007 Posts: 2655 Location: Anacortes, WA
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Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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I just grab a possum out of the yard, squeeze him really hard and quirt his stuff into my valves. Never a problem. Don't know what you guys are talkin' about. Maybe it's time to ferget the fancy stuff and just get back to where you started. _________________ Richard
King 1130 Flugabone
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