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johannestrpt Veteran Member
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 8:18 am Post subject: spinning wheel |
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hey guys
I was asked to play few tunes with a rock band and this is one of them. Does anyone own it on pdf. It would save me alot of work.
Sincerly
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Craig Swartz Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 8:54 am Post subject: |
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Old Blood, Sweat and Tears tune? I think it was their first real hit, 1968 or 69. Good trumpet solo by Lew Solof. |
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Mike Casteel Regular Member
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Solar Bell Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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I am quite sure that Alan Rubin(Blues Bros.) did the trumpet solo on Spinning Wheel.
Lew was a great player, but Alan did the solo. Not a member of the group, he guested on that tune.
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PH Bill Adam/Carmine Caruso Forum Moderator
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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Solar Bell wrote: | I am quite sure that Alan Rubin(Blues Bros.) did the trumpet solo on Spinning Wheel.
Lew was a great player, but Alan did the solo. Not a member of the group, he guested on that tune.
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Rubin was not credited as playing on the album. I still think it was probably Soloff. |
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Iguananaught Veteran Member
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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It was Soloff for sure. I think there is a sight called jazztrumpetsolos.com or some such thing that has a transcription on it.
patrick _________________ Bach Larson C
Kansas City Trumpet Company 1/YS/M |
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Solar Bell Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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See link, I knew I could find it
http://jhendrix110.tripod.com/AlKooper.html
Blood, Sweat and Tears (1969), ***1/2
With the group's main writer and musical force gone (Kooper), BS&T aimed for a more commercial sound with Chicago producer James William Guercio. In the end, BS&T is split fairly evenly between the horns and new frontman David Clayton-Thomas. Judging by the album picture, he's a big guy, so it comes as no surprise that he can really belt it out, complete with noises stolen from James Brown. Fred Lipsius (alto sax/piano) and Dick Halligan (keys/flute/trombone) wrote most of the horn arrangements (Kooper also gets some credit), and the horns back Clayton-Thomas during the songs, then shift into jazz instrumental breaks (the hit "You've Made Me So Very Happy" among others). BS&T has a fairly consistent tone, but a few variations carry over from their debut, such the classically derived intro/outro ("Variations on a Theme by Eric Satie") or the jazz/blues solo showcase of "Blues-Part II." All the changes worked for the band, and this album had plenty of success. Its most famous track, "Spinning Wheel," is truly a great song, with Clayton-Thomas's big vocals interspersed with a guest solo by trumpeter Alan Rubin (later in the Blues Brothers' original band.) BS&T only potential downside is that most of the songs are covers, the exceptions being "Spinning Wheel" and Katz's nice ballad "Sometimes in Winter." Along with Chicago Transit Authority, this is one of the defining albums of white horn rock. Produced by James William Guercio. (Columbia CS 9720).
Al Kooper: I Stand Alone (1969)
This has been known for many years and Alan has confirmed it in interviews.
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Solar Bell Heavyweight Member
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wiseone2 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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Here's Lew-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76VxdeCb-64
That solo on the recording sounds like Lew to me.
Wilmer _________________ "Be sure Brain is engaged before putting Mouthpiece in gear"
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EdMann Heavyweight Member
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Mike Casteel Regular Member
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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Does anyone know about that 4-valve trumpet Lew is playing in the video? |
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cb3 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:02 pm Post subject: ok |
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Hope you didn't get too distracted. You asked for a pdf version right? On the post above mine if you go to it, you can download it from there. Good luck with that one, it can be a tricky one as it it is very exposed towards the end. |
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Mikeytrpt Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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That 4 valve trumpet was made for him by Schilke. Scott Laskey told me the story many years ago. Apparently, Lew called them and said he needed to play a part that extended below F#, and asked if they could make a 4 valve Bb for him. I don't know if they ended up using a .450 bore P5-4 piccolo valve block, the E3-L4 valve block, or if they made something custom. But it worked out well!
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johannestrpt Veteran Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:23 am Post subject: |
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. I liked the discussion. I already own the trumpet solo part, if anyone has transcribed it or is able to scan it i would appreaciate it greatly. Since my gig is few days ahead. I cant get them to send it to Iceland before that time.
sincerly
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jimmyjazz1968 Veteran Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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Lew Soloff...NOT Alan Rubin.......... _________________ James Ingenito
New York
www.jamesingenito.com |
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Solar Bell Heavyweight Member
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wiseone2 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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Alan was on the date. Lew played the solo. It is not unusual for groups to have extra chops around on hard dates.
Wilmer _________________ "Be sure Brain is engaged before putting Mouthpiece in gear"
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jazz_trpt Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 9:41 am Post subject: |
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They're probably both playing on the track. How's that? _________________ Jeff Helgesen
Free jazz solo transcriptions! |
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Tuningbell Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 10:11 am Post subject: |
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How bout this everybody.... Lew Soloff played the solo in the BST concerts he was in live and Alan Rubin did the studio date when the album was recorded!!! All of the Blues Brothers musicians were actually STAX studio musicians... Some of the best in the biz I might add!!!
It would not surprise me that Alan did the famous recording but Lew has played it many times on gigs as the BST lead trumpet. Either of these guys were often double booked in their prime!!! |
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Tuningbell Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 10:16 am Post subject: |
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http://www.rdrop.com/users/rickert/bst2.html - Source
Lineup
David Clayton-Thomas: Vocals (Except "Sometimes in Winter")
Steve Katz: Guitar, Hamonica, Vocals (Lead on "Sometimes in Winter")
Bobby Colomby: Drums, Percussion, Vocals
Jim Fielder: Bass
Fred Lipsius: Alto Saxaphone, Piano
Lew Soloff: Trumpet, Fluegelhorn
Chuck Winfield: Trumpet, Fluegelhorn
Jerry Hyman: Trombone
Dick Halligan: Organ, Piano, Flute, Trombone, Vocals
BS&T Soul Chorus: Dick Halligan, Bobby Colomby
Alan Rubin: Trumpet on "Spinning Wheel."
Lucy Angle: Footsteps |
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