spinning wheel

[Tuningbell]

I sent this email below to the current BST trumpet player. He has a website. Hopefully he can put this debate to rest.

Hello Steve –

Great website! Do you follow trumpetherald.com at all? The big debate is who played the spinning wheel solo Lew Soloff or Alan Rubin. I guess you play it today! Could you enlighten our members via return email why Alan is credited with it someplaces and Lew is credited in others?

Thanks –

John Beadle

[EdMann]

Your source material is incorrect. I'll try to have Lew respond on his own. This is silly. It's one of most recognized trumpet solos in pop history and helped put Lew in the pantheon of the great crossover players in the country, and there's plenty of evidence. Here's yet another:

Spinning Wheel Lyrics
Music and Lyrics by David Clayton-Thomas
Originally recorded by Blood Sweat & Tears ©1969 BMI
Home Demo MP3 (3:40)
George LeGros: Vocals
Josh Becker: Guitars, Keyboards, Bass, Drum Programming
The brass parts of the original Blood, Sweat & Tears classic are replaced here by aggressive guitar and keyboards. George LeGros was the perfect choice to do justice to this song’s distinctive vocal part. Also, note that the guitar solo is faithful, note-for-note, to the original trumpet solo by Lew Soloff.

[timcates]

it's Lew's solo vocabulary - Rubin was probably in the section to help out as Wilmer and Jeff suggested - I didn't see anything in Solar Bell's links that said that Alan was claiming to be the soloist, only that he played on the track

TC

[trumpetnews]

The official BS&T Transcriptions Book (linked to earlier in this thread) says "As Played By Lew Soloff" over the trumpet solo. To me that's a much more credible source than someone's hobby review site on Tripod (a free site, like Geocities when they were around). And, as been said before, all of the other sources cite Alan as playing on the track, not necessarily the solo.

Let's hope Ed Mann comes back soon with Lew's response so we can put this to rest.

Next we'll find out that wasn't Miles' playing the trumpet solo on So What!

[Tuningbell]

I got this speedy reply from one of the the current BST trumpets. This is by far the most credible information I could get. Perhaps he will post here himself.

Hi John,


Lew Soloff played it on the original recording.
Teddy Mulet and I split the solos now. Teddy does a great job on the Spinning Wheel solo.
Come out and see us sometime.


I'll check out the trumpetherald.com now that I know about it


thanks


Steve

[Tuningbell]

This bio clearly indicates that Alan was a session player for BST... I believe he was on the date but Lew Played the solo!
http://www.tedkurland.com/pbuild/linkbuilder.cfm?selection=doc.113
Just because the album lists him as on the track does not mean he played the solo.

ALAN "MR FABULOUS" RUBIN (Trumpet)
Like Lou Marini, Brooklyn-born Alan Rubin was hand-picked to be a BLUES BROTHERS horn by John Belushi. Classically-trained at Juilliard but self-schooled in the music of Clifford Brown and Miles Davis, Rubin in the 1970’s staked out a lucrative career as a session player (Blood, Sweat & Tears, Frank Sinatra, Duke Ellington and Paul Simon, among others) and joined the "Saturday Night Live" band. THE BLUES BROTHERS BAND, then and now, astounds him. "The sound was - is - ferocious," he says. "We are essence players. We go for the jugular. I get on that bandstand and something happens. It comes from a deep, dark, magical place, the way we take each other to new levels. We’re the heartbeat of the old Stax Records, the bedrock of American R&B, with a wholly contemporary edge. We’re very proud players. Being a BLUES BROTHER is a very Zen experience."

[EdMann]

Ok, Here's the horse's mouth:

[Solar Bell]

My apologies

I recieved this email from Lew also.

Hello Chuck, Alan Rubin played the lead for this track, and I was the solo player. Thanx, Lew

-cw-
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Chuck Willard

[PH]

Okay. I always assumed it was Louie who played the double B on HiDeHo. Who wants to correct me?

[EdMann]

Hah.

This thread is closed!

BTW, that was Lew playing behind Doc all those years on the Tonight Show, trumpet syncing, and Wynton doesn't know Cherokee... Lew on the overdub.

CBS Sunday Morning theme: Lew
Trumpet Summit CD: all Lew
Shew: Lew

[JoeCool]

[SatchmoGillespie]

Shorty Rogers really intended to call his tune "Lew Soloff" instead of "Maynard Ferguson."
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[LegallyTrumpeting]

I have played this solo many times and it is definatly Lew. I model my playing in this solo after him, duh, but sometimes do my own thing. All credit goes to Lew here, he the man.

[skootchy]

Didn't Lew also play the solo on that Beatles thing??..
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[allstarbugler]

[skootchy]

[gillie89]

Skootchy wrote: I was trying for a little oblique humor.

I think it was Lew who did the 2 octave slur from f to high f on Deborah's Theme on the new Chris Botti CD.

Hope springs eternal. Oblique enough?

Gillie

[allstarbugler]

[Bucaneer61]

Botti's slur is actually only one octave, fifth line "F" to high "F", but still incredible. I used to be able to hit the high "F", but no where near as easily and at pianissimo, to boot. Heard him do it live -- woo-hoo!!!

Michael
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