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Sharps or Flats - which do you prefer? |
I would rather play in sharps than in flats. |
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I would rather play in flats than in sharps. |
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I don't like either one. |
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It really doesn't matter - either is OK. |
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Dale Proctor Heavyweight Member
Joined: 26 May 2005 Posts: 9343 Location: Heart of Dixie
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:38 am Post subject: Sharps or Flats? |
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OK, which keys do you prefer - sharps or flats? I mean, when a piece of difficult music is put on your stand, do you squirm more if it's in 5 sharps or 5 flats? Just wondering how others felt...for some reason, I'd rather see flats. _________________ "Brass bands are all very well in their place - outdoors and several miles away ." - Sir Thomas Beecham |
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BenH Heavyweight Member
Joined: 28 Aug 2007 Posts: 848 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:57 am Post subject: |
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I would definitely rather see F# major than Gb major, and I think I'd prefer C# major to Db major, oddly enough, so I'll go for sharps.
Having said that, I don't like seeing that many of either. _________________ Schilke B1
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Bill Dishman Heavyweight Member
Joined: 06 Feb 2003 Posts: 1174
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:33 am Post subject: Flats/Sharps |
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It makes no difference to me. Feeling comfortable in all keys is the goal. I find that being proficient in multiple transpositions makes things even easier when dealing with various keys that come up in sight reading.
However.... there is a "familiarity/conditioning element that comes into play. In a very basic example (my middle school band students) some instrumentalists feel more comfortable in one (flats) or the other (sharps) due to their experience. In elementary and middle school music, the low brass come across flats much more so than sharps. Flutes, oboes and mallet percussion are also more comfortable in flat keys signatures. Alto and Bari saxes conversely are much more exposed to sharp key signatures and thus feel more comfortable with this.
Generally trumpets/clarinets fit in the middle ground (but not too many of each) with French horns also near the middle ground but seem to do better with sharps overall. To me, this is typical but not desirable. I work all keys in class to build proficiency and a feeling of "ownership" when various key signatures come up.
Another benefit of being comfortable in all keys is that even if a young student is struggling with multiple flats/sharps while they are learning, they feel much more proficient with the lesser number of flats/sharps.
My private studio students work all keys over time. I even start 1st and 2nd year students transposing basic material. They pick it up easily and quickly. I even start the chromatic scale with beginners right off the bat so there is nothing "hard" or "difficult" about them. After learning the typical "C" (Bb concert) scale, I do B (A concert) and C# (B concert) very quickly. Since this is just something else to learn, there is no "phobia" about it. Like the NIKE commercial. "Just Do It!"
Bill Dishman
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shofarguy Heavyweight Member
Joined: 18 Sep 2007 Posts: 7003 Location: AZ
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:03 am Post subject: |
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BenH wrote: | I would definitely rather see F# major than Gb major, and I think I'd prefer C# major to Db major, oddly enough, so I'll go for sharps.
Having said that, I don't like seeing that many of either. |
Did I write that post?? I could have written that post.
Favorite Major Keys in Order:
F
Bb
C
D
G
Hardest Major Keys in Order:
Db
C#
F#
A
Ab
Of course there are other keys, but these are the standouts for me. Funny how I don't really like C Major that much. And of course these are written keys for trumpet, not concert keys
Brian _________________ Brian A. Douglas
Flip Oakes Wild Thing Bb Trumpet in copper
Flip Oakes Wild Thing Flugelhorn in copper
There is one reason that I practice: to be ready at the downbeat when the final trumpet sounds. |
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Cheng Veteran Member
Joined: 05 Mar 2003 Posts: 492 Location: Santa Rosa, CA (the real wine country)
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:47 am Post subject: |
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Because I have spent most of my playing life in concert bands, I am more used to Flat keys. But over the last couple of years, I have spent a significant amount of time learning to be confortable in all keys.
I still have some finger dexterity issues but that is also coming along. Being flexible also assists in transposition. _________________ Harry Marks
Yamaha 6345HSII;Yamaha 6445HGSII, Schilke E3L, Flugel Kanstul ZKF-1525;
Cornet Conn Connstellation (1967);
Piccolo Kanstul ZKT 1520
Mouthpieces Various Monette Prana 2's
Santa Rosa Wind Symphony
SRJC Orchestra |
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Juergen Heavyweight Member
Joined: 15 Oct 2007 Posts: 590 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:10 am Post subject: |
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Flats seem nicer to read; easier maybe. I don't know but my favorite key is Ab Major. _________________ Go [(Blue))> |
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jazz_trpt Heavyweight Member
Joined: 25 Nov 2001 Posts: 5734 Location: Savoy, Illinois, USA
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veery715 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 13 Aug 2007 Posts: 4313 Location: Ithaca NY
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:01 am Post subject: |
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jazz_trpt wrote: | I'd rather play in F than in E sharp. | That's my fave response of the year! _________________ veery715
Hear me sing!: https://youtu.be/vtJ14MV64WY
Playing trumpet - the healthy way to blow your brains out. |
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VetPsychWars Heavyweight Member
Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 7196 Location: Greenfield WI
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:10 am Post subject: |
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I dislike more than three of either. Hated playing "The Music Man"!
Though, truly, once you learn it, the music is just a reminder. Your fingers know where to go.
Tom _________________ 1950 Buescher Lightweight 400 Trumpet
1949 Buescher 400 Trumpet
1939 Buescher 400 Cornet
GR65M, GR65 Cor #1 |
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Terron Regular Member
Joined: 08 Aug 2008 Posts: 66
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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I perfer Db over C# and prefer F# over Gb, I guess its just what you are used to. But I can play in all keys pretty well. That comes from doing shows where it isn't uncommon to play in C#maj with f and c double sharps (concert C# then add 2 sharps to trumpet? Why not make it easier for us and write trumpet parts in Eb?) Strangely I have the bigest trouble with Amaj, The d natural always gets me |
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GrahamB Veteran Member
Joined: 25 Jun 2008 Posts: 118 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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It REALLY doesn't make any difference whatsoever for me. For me, there's no difference between C# Major or Db Major, a key's a key. |
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