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Ed Lee Heavyweight Member
Joined: 14 Aug 2009 Posts: 2156 Location: Jackson NC 27845
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Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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I've already suggested this to a few, but if there were a partially drilled hole in each part, machinist's C spanners could resolve this problem readily. But gosh, if I play a mpc today, tonight it gets a bath ... just like me. I don't presently have any two piece mpcs, but would separate them if I did. I totally dry mpcs with a surplus hairdryer. Just a drop of valve oil on the thread of a two piece shouldn't be a problem since it would be cleaned after each use and new oil applied.
Actually, my whole horn gets a bath this regularly and put away ... but not in a carrying case. --- Ed Lee |
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Christian K. Peters Heavyweight Member
Joined: 12 Nov 2001 Posts: 1529 Location: Eugene, Oregon
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Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:06 pm Post subject: Getting stuck |
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Hello all,
Nice photos Dr. Dave!!! I just usually take a rawhide mallet and whack the rim, squarely, a couple of times. The top has always come off. But this works for my Warburton/Warburton pieces. Maybe the Wedge/Warburton has bad Karma _________________ Christian K. Peters
Schilke Loyalist since 1976 |
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nyctrumpeter Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Feb 2008 Posts: 1992 Location: New York City
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Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:46 pm Post subject: Re: Getting stuck Wedge and Warburton tops and backbores apa |
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DrDave wrote: | Hi,
I get questions about how to separate backbore lower shanks from upper backbores components, and tops from backbores, so I thought it might be helpful to post some info on how to do it with duct tape. There are other ways to do this, but this way will remove even stubborn tops, uses no tools, and cannot damage the mouthpiece. I keep a roll of tape in the woodshed for this.
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Wow, but I can't see this working well. Duct tape is slippery and can tear very easliy. Rubber jar grips work great. If not, liquid wrench and the grips also work after a few rubber mallet whacks. I have many 2 piece mpcs and they have never gotten stuck. Also, shows you that you shouldn't combine brands, even if they have the same threads. They may not work. |
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DrDave Heavyweight Member
Joined: 30 Jan 2003 Posts: 615 Location: Gabriola Island, BC, Canada
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:07 am Post subject: |
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Rats! Ok, I confess. You got me.
First, Wedge tops and Warburton backbores should not be used together. Please, if you buy a Wedge top, even if you have a drawer full of Warburton backbores, you really should also buy a Wedge backbore or two.
My original plan in starting this thread was to show a way that does not work very well. Then when players were unable to separate them I would tell them that the top and backbore were permanently fused and that they should discard them both and buy a replacement top and Wedge backbore from me. Actually, I have never really tried to get a top and backbore separated with duct tape.
I am so embarrassed. _________________ Dr. Dave
www.wedgemouthpiece.com |
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INTJ Heavyweight Member
Joined: 25 Dec 2002 Posts: 1986 Location: Northern Idaho
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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You guys are a bunch of wimps!!! There is little on this planet that cannot be seperated with a pair of Vise Grips.............. _________________ Harrels VPS Summit
Wild Thing
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gbdeamer Heavyweight Member
Joined: 31 Dec 2007 Posts: 2288
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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:58 am Post subject: |
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Still a fun thread. |
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Paul.Trumpet Heavyweight Member
Joined: 21 Nov 2001 Posts: 510 Location: Oxfordshire
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Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 3:47 am Post subject: |
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I wrap the cuff of an industrial rubber glove around the shank, another around the cup, it always gives enough grip....except....
The one time I resorted to violence was when buying an Ebay special that had corroded together. Nothing moved it, not shock, heat or penetrating oil.
This only happened because they were silver plated parts. Damn, I forgot to try an ultrasonic acid bath..... |
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Bryant Jordan Veteran Member
Joined: 16 Aug 2015 Posts: 410 Location: Utah, USA
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Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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Don't like resurrecting old threads, but this works wonderfully! |
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mograph Regular Member
Joined: 17 Feb 2020 Posts: 88
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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A buddy just gave me an old Warburton that was stuck, and sure enough, Trumpet Herald to the rescue! _________________ 1985 Bach 37
1980 King 601 (it's bulletproof!)
1978 Couesnon flugelhorn
Playing for fun since 1979.
Fmr member 48th Highlanders of Canada Mil Band
Into that jazz devil music |
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