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oliver king Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 11:03 am Post subject: |
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I've a humidor full of some really great smokes, Punch (yes the real ones) a couple of Cohiba Especials, a few Monte Cristo's, El Rey del Mundos. I have in the past enjoyed ALL of these cigars. I've found the day after smoking one, I am easily tired and not as energized as I was before smoking.
It's just not worth it anymore. _________________ LB Bel Canto #59
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pfeifela Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 11:34 am Post subject: |
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crzytptman wrote: | Wouldn't you rather hear stories about people that have smoked, then quit and now live better? I'm sure that would help trumpet playing as well. It boggles my mind what people will do to their bodies as a result of corporate mind control. Don't be a victim. |
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Finnball Regular Member
Joined: 04 Apr 2009 Posts: 18 Location: Leipzig, Germany
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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:23 am Post subject: I did it! |
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I have kicked smoking! havenīt smoked in two months and donīt miss it. Thanks guys for your stories and thanks to Allan Carrs book (no, i donīt work for him)
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Finnball Regular Member
Joined: 04 Apr 2009 Posts: 18 Location: Leipzig, Germany
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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:24 am Post subject: |
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and yeah, trumpet playing is a lot easier now by the way |
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Mr. Benge Veteran Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:29 am Post subject: |
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Ok, noone else has thrown it out there so I guess I will. We've discussed and heard from lots of folks on the effects that smoking cigarettes has, or doesn't have, on your playing. What about smoking weed? |
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Dave C. Veteran Member
Joined: 21 Jan 2008 Posts: 158 Location: Cape Cod, Massachusetts
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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:36 am Post subject: |
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Finball,
I smoked up to 2 packs a day until i was 35....had bouts with bronchial infections....then quit. It wasn't easy.
Stopped playing when I was 30, raising family, etc. At 60 started playing again very actively, took lessons in Boston to get me started.
At age 70 in a physical exam, I asked to check my lung capacity just for general interest, and it came in at 120% greater than average for my age.
I now play lead in two big bands and others as well as in two town bands.
It seems that playing has restored my vital lung capacity and then some.
Congratulations, and keep up the good work. _________________ Bb Bach Strad 37
Bb Selmer Model A20 (1953) |
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veery715 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 13 Aug 2007 Posts: 4313 Location: Ithaca NY
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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:51 am Post subject: |
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OK. Time for candor.
I smoked cigarettes from 1964 - 1984. Quit, cold turkey, but continued to smoke weed and drink alcohol. Never wanted another cigarette, and have had insanely good health. Took the trumpet back up at age 59.
At the age of 60 I gave up both weed and alcohol. My health has continued and even improved. I do not get winded playing the horn, and the amount of time I have now to practice is huge; it is amazing how much time one wastes with drinking and getting high. And money! Oh my God! I bet I could have bought a Bachelor's in Music or more with that kind of money.
I thought my music flowed better when high. WRONG!
Every aspect of my life, and especially music, is enhanced by my lifestyle changes. I have no regrets. Instead I am exrtremely grateful for the opportunity to live and play to the best of my ability. Today, I get to practice. Hooray! God willing, I will get to do it tomorrow too.
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jengstrom Veteran Member
Joined: 15 Sep 2008 Posts: 427 Location: Rochester, NY
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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:17 am Post subject: |
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In 10th and 11th grade, I had a DHC. I started smoking my senior year. I began having trouble playing higher than high C or D.
In college, things got worse. I was playing a lot more, and found it hard to play out of the staff. My sound was strained on anything higher than 3rd space C.
My chops had started swelling, big time. I started using more MP pressure, which made the swelling worse, so I used more MP pressure, increasing the swelling some more, etc. Once the toilet bowl swirl starts, it's hard to stop it.
I found that if I could manage to quit for a couple of weeks, my range and durability came back. But, being the addict that I am, I inevitably started back up. And sure enough, at the 2 week mark, my range tanked again.
Nicotine restricts the blood vessels, making it harder for your cardio system to flush out the bad and resupply with the good. Lactic acid and who knows what else builds up and the lip tissue can't rejuvenate in time for tomorrow's smashfest. If you don't use a lot of MP pressure, maybe you can get away with it, at least for a while. However, if you are the type of player that uses a lot of MP pressure to begin with, this situation is very bad.
When I finally did quit for good, the my bad playing habits were ingrained. I just couldn't get my chops back after years of fighting this. I finally gave up and quit playing for many years.
I'm playing again now and am trying to fix the bad habits. Do yourself a big favor and quit smoking. For those of you who don't smoke, don't start. Ever. Thank God I'm still healthy.
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crzytptman Heavyweight Member
Joined: 03 Sep 2003 Posts: 10124 Location: Escondido California
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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:18 am Post subject: |
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The way I understand it, there are way fewer health effecting substances in marijuana smoke than in tobacco smoke - by divine design as well as human design. However, you can't discount the effect of inhaling the smoke of burning plant material. A 2 pack a day joint smoker would probably have issues . . . _________________ Crazy Nate - Fine Yet Mellow Fellow
"so full of it I don't know where to start"
Horn: "just mismatched Kanstul spare parts"
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castingbbdo New Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:34 am Post subject: Inspirational ex-smokers for online film? |
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Hello!
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I have just come across this page and I thought you might know of some incredible brass band players who used to smoke? It would be fantastic if you could nominate anyone that you think might be interested. Do you think you also might be able to share the attached flyer with your members, via mailing lists, newsletters, Facebook pages and Twitter? Were hoping to reach as many inspiring people as possible!
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OldKing Regular Member
Joined: 26 May 2017 Posts: 89 Location: Boerne, TX
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:32 am Post subject: |
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oliver king wrote: | I've a humidor full of some really great smokes, Punch (yes the real ones) a couple of Cohiba Especials, a few Monte Cristo's, El Rey del Mundos. I have in the past enjoyed ALL of these cigars. I've found the day after smoking one, I am easily tired and not as energized as I was before smoking.
It's just not worth it anymore. |
Now we're discussing giving up the occasional fine cigar?
That's just crazy talk!
I never seriously smoked cigarettes, but greatly admire you guys that have laid them down for good. _________________ For if the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle? - 1 Cor 14:8 |
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Tpt_Guy Heavyweight Member
Joined: 16 Jul 2004 Posts: 1102 Location: Sacramento, Ca
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:19 am Post subject: |
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OldKing wrote: | oliver king wrote: | I've a humidor full of some really great smokes, Punch (yes the real ones) a couple of Cohiba Especials, a few Monte Cristo's, El Rey del Mundos. I have in the past enjoyed ALL of these cigars. I've found the day after smoking one, I am easily tired and not as energized as I was before smoking.
It's just not worth it anymore. |
Now we're discussing giving up the occasional fine cigar?
That's just crazy talk!
I never seriously smoked cigarettes, but greatly admire you guys that have laid them down for good. |
That was, what, eight years ago?
Anyway, I enjoy a cigar or pipe on occasion. I used to more often, but now that I have a family I find that I just don't have the time anymore.
I never noticed any negative effects on my playing, but it may be that I never smoked them a lot to begin with and I smoke them the way they're supposed to be smoked: sipped and tasted, not inhaled. The only players I've met who have experienced real negative effects from a pipe or cigar are those who either smoke them like cigarettes and inhale, or smoke them quite often. _________________ -Tom Hall-
"A good teacher protects his pupils from his own influence."
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starkadder Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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A friend of mine once remarked "its easy to quit smoking. I've done it hundreds of times".
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oxleyk Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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starkadder wrote: | A friend of mine once remarked "its easy to quit smoking. I've done it hundreds of times".
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I think that was Mark Twain. |
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George Coble Veteran Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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Following a long respite, this topic has meaning, hope, and good sense about it.
I smoked from 1966 until 2002. I never really gave it much thought until my daughter casually told me that she looked forward to me returning home to Liverpool NY, on Saturday nights from my NYPhil gig. I would drive the 4 hours going home and, as part of my smoking agreement with my wife, I would smoke outside of the garage door. Little did I know, my daughter left her window above the garage open so that she could smell my cigarette smoking, even in the winter. She told me that she never went to sleep until she smelled me smoking.
I would never tell anyone what they should do about their smoking addiction. Stopping smoking is the most difficult thing I have done in this life. I actually did stop smoking on August 15, 2002. Today, 15 years after stopping smoking I have an absolutely clear chest X-ray and life is great.
Smoking never affected my playing. Stopping smoking gave me a better life and a thicker wallet. I wish for those who hope to stop smoking all the luck in the world.
Good Luck.
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Croquethed Heavyweight Member
Joined: 19 Dec 2013 Posts: 613 Location: Oakville, CT
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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George, smoking outside in Syracuse in the winter takes some toughness!
I smoked 13 years, while I was on hiatus from horn playing. Now I run 15 miles a week and consider it a vital part of being in shape to play the instrument.
And you are right about a thicker wallet. When I first quit, cigarettes were about $3.50 a pack and I gave myself incenntive by telling myself I could buy a new pair of running shoes every month. Today, they are north of $10 a pack in CT, and I could buy a new pair of shoes every 5-7 days on what I would spend on tobacco. |
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Bflatman Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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I hope my own story is inspiring, I and others feel it is so.
When I was a child I began smoking that was many years ago and I smoked heavily in my late school years. After leaving school I was smoking maybe 40 a day and I found myself unable to breathe normally and unable to afford to smoke, I had a good talk to myself and determined to quit.
It wasnt easy but I did manage it, I still suffered some breathing problems along the way but these gradually cleared up leaving me with some asthma type symptoms.
I took up various sports and martial sports, breathing exercises were part of this and at times the activity was so strenuous that I threw up during practice, this happened on more than one occasion.
I gradually developed good lung capacity through these sports and activities and benefitted from that and I felt my poor lung condition and breathing problems were behind me.
Much later I developed a cough and my doctor was unable to help, tests were inconclusive and I was sent to the local hospital for an xray of my lungs.
I was xrayed and the radiographer told me there was a problem and they needed another xray, this obviously concerned me, they did a second xray and then the radiographer said he was sorry but there is a problem and he needed to call the head of radiography.
I became very concerned at this point. The head of radiography turned up and explained that my lungs were so large they were too big for the machine. They needed to take 3 xrays to cover my lungs.
Thankfully it was discovered that there was nothing wrong with my lungs.
Since that time I have begun trumpet practice and my large lung capacity has been a great help to me in being able to sustain notes and phrases. I retired from sporting activities many years ago but I am to this day exceptionally fit and have no problems with sustained activity like running.
I am living proof and a testament to the immense ability of the human body to repair itself and proof that the effects of heavy smoking can be reversed and are in no way permanent unless permanent damage has already been suffered.
I have the fitness strength and lung capacity of a man 30 years my junior.
You can recover. |
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deleted_user_02066fd New Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 10:34 am Post subject: |
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I noticed that Arturo and Doc smoke cigars. |
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Bill Ortiz Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 10:56 am Post subject: |
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In regards to Arturo and Doc smoking, there are exceptions to everything. As for being a 2 pack a day joint smoker, I don't know it that's even possible :) _________________ '56 Martin Committee Deluxe #2 trumpet
14B Schilke mouthpiece
Couesnon Paris flugelhorn
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tim_wolf Veteran Member
Joined: 28 Feb 2006 Posts: 379 Location: Lancaster, PA
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Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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Croquethed wrote: | George, smoking outside in Syracuse in the winter takes some toughness!
I smoked 13 years, while I was on hiatus from horn playing. Now I run 15 miles a week and consider it a vital part of being in shape to play the instrument.
And you are right about a thicker wallet. When I first quit, cigarettes were about $3.50 a pack and I gave myself incenntive by telling myself I could buy a new pair of running shoes every month. Today, they are north of $10 a pack in CT, and I could buy a new pair of shoes every 5-7 days on what I would spend on tobacco. |
$3.50 a pack!? I remember when my dad quit smoking cold turkey in the mid-seventies, because "there's no way I'm paying fifty cents for a pack of cigarettes!" I always admired him quitting cold turkey after smoking two packs a day for 30 years. |
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