Need Help! I can't lip-buzz!

ngzongyi · Regular Member Joined: 13 Jul 2007 Posts: 15

Hi all.

I need some advice here. I have been playing trumpet for quite sometime. But it was only recently i found out that i actually can't lip-buzz. I've also read some articles on how useful can lip-buzzing be. So i'm really interesting in learning how to lip-buzz.

Thanks

Pete · Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 2:58 am Post subject:

Bobby Shew has talked about this in clinics and videos. Take your index and middle fingers and spread them out to the width of your mouthpiece rim. Place them lightly on your lips until you can achieve a buzz while exhaling air. If you can't do it, give it time and experiment. Also, I know some really excellent players who don't free buzz.

Pete

ngzongyi · Regular Member Joined: 13 Jul 2007 Posts: 15

Spread them? as in vertical or horizontal?

Thanks!

Nonsense Eliminator · Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 5:31 am Post subject:

Don't worry about it. It isn't necessary to practice free buzzing in order to learn to play the trumpet; some people would say it's counterproductive.
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ghsdirector · Veteran Member Joined: 22 Oct 2008 Posts: 220

I'm pretty sure I read that Phil Smith can't do it. That's probably reason enough to not worry about it right there.

skootchy · Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:04 am Post subject:

ngzongyi · Regular Member Joined: 13 Jul 2007 Posts: 15

Thanks so much guys.

Anyway i'm currently making a big change to my embouchure. Other than buzzing (perphas with at least a rim now) exercise, what else you guys recommend?

ghsdirector · Veteran Member Joined: 22 Oct 2008 Posts: 220

Perhaps check out the Chicago School Forum.

The first few years I played I was far too concerned about the physical aspects of playing. My trumpet teacher in college basically got me away from all of that worry and focused on making music. That was a big breakthrough.

You may need this embouchure change. I don't know. Some people have a setup that is so bad it needs to be changed.

I would suggest a lot of lyrical playing. I always play better when I do a lot of this type of playing.

Best of luck to you!

TRUMPONIMUS · Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:13 am Post subject:

ngzongyi,
Your post is a hard one to reply to (except for the lip buzzing)
You say ....

mcgovnor · Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:05 am Post subject: u don't have

the main problem i c is worrying about lip buzzing.
don't.
stop it, now.
it is totally unrelated to great trumpet playing, period.
Some can, and don't. some can and do.
Some can't, and don't.
period.
listen to a great teacher, in person, and practice with a worry free approach, one that professes, "I will find & change my embouchure and play successfully."
again,stop it. no pencils, no lip buzzing. no pedal tones. no costello. no caruso. no reinhardt. no nothing.
get the clarke books, chas colin lip flexibilities, read the text and do what it says.
without worrying.
later, you can experiment with various approaches and find one that will optimize your playing.

dbacon · Heavyweight Member Joined: 11 Nov 2001 Posts: 8592

mcgovnor · Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:21 am Post subject: the

and then, there r the televangelists...and..the peach pit extract cures...

Bryan Cook · Regular Member Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 40

Lip buzzing isnt important. If you're going to do buzzing drills, use the mpc with a berp. Do the Stamp with a tuner. I had a very expensive lesson ruined by lip buzzing. My chops got blown out and i couldnt focus my apature at all.

mcgovnor · Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:35 am Post subject: just

don't do it, until...grown up, if u know what i mean.

bobd0 · Veteran Member Joined: 29 Jan 2009 Posts: 304

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mcgovnor · Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 12:37 pm Post subject: there

yep.best words 2day

ldwoods · Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 3:30 pm Post subject:

Free buzz
1 - Take a very deep, full, three step breath from you naval.
2 - Clamp your lips shut with maximum tension
3 - Blow without letting any air escape from your lips or nose (imagine pressuriizing the head until the air is coming from your eyes)
4 - now relax and enjoy the "free buzz"
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operagost · Veteran Member Joined: 23 Feb 2009 Posts: 104

mcgovnor · Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 7:09 pm Post subject: certainly

get the fundamental embouchure functioning without worrying about any peripheral issues you may discover heralded here.
do it with a great player, preferably a meat and potato orchestral player, or a top notch free lance player.
no problem.
if u desire a third take, just call.

swthiel · Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 7:40 pm Post subject: Re: Need Help! I can't lip-buzz!