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dan1020 Regular Member
Joined: 02 Dec 2008 Posts: 19 Location: New York, NY
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Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 4:12 pm Post subject: good rep. for beginner students |
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I have students ranging from 4th-7th grade. During the school year i helped them with their lesson music, scales, fundamentals, NYSSMA music, etc etc, but as the summer approaches I am not certain on what direction i should go with the students as far as rep.
Granted each student is on a different level and I give them assignments based on what they can/cannot do.
My idea is to keep them reading new music and learning more styles (along with maintaining and improving fundamental aspects of playing)..does anyone know good solo books for beginners (Ive searched, but don't know which ones are good)
any ideas would be helpful |
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trpt.hick Rafael Méndez Forum Moderator
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Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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100 PROGRESSIVE LESSONS for the Beginning or Comeback Trumpter
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David Hickman
This book is really catching on. www.HickmanMusicEditions.com
Sorry for the shameless plug!! |
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JazzmanGIANT Heavyweight Member
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Getchell etudes? _________________ The thing to judge in any jazz artist is, does the man project and does he have ideas. MilesDavis
"Always be heard - no matter the dynamics."-Mr Adolph Herseth
Yamaha Xeno RGS 2008
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Billy B Heavyweight Member
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The Really Big Student Songbook
http://www.bolvinmusic.com/ _________________ Bill Bergren |
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PiCK Kanstul Heavyweight Member
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SMART MUSIC
$30 student subscription. |
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richj50 Veteran Member
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 5:22 am Post subject: |
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I really like the Hering 40 Etudes book. Worked wonders for me as a kid and has done the same for my 2nd grader. |
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skishhhh Veteran Member
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 6:17 am Post subject: |
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I don't know if it is still available, but there was a beginner's cornet/trumpet solo book titled something like "The Junior Soloist". It had about 8 solos, most of them were appealing to young students. |
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Capt.Kirk Heavyweight Member
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You know their are vast amounts of free music online that have not been copy righted. You can print them for free. That is what I would be looking at.
As far as études and such go you would prop. do well to make some up on your own based on a list of common problems and three different skill levels. Beginner, Intermediate, Advanced then do the common things like air support, tonguing, slurring and toss in some scales and arpeggios and you have a cut and paste format with a lot of free music to pick from!
If you color code it the kids can grab the right material with out you even needing to hand it out to them. Just let them grab it fromt he right colored stack or exercise's! _________________ The only easy day was yesterday! |
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timothyquinlan Veteran Member
Joined: 07 Jun 2007 Posts: 267 Location: Victoria, BC
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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I have been dealing with this problem for quite a long time, there seems to be a gap is usable material for students. Even the Arban's needs a G above the staff to get through the first 2 pages.
For absolute beginners I get them moving through a beginning band book, like Standard of Excellence, Essential Elements, or Accent on Achievement. There is little point in writing out your own exercises for a beginner to learn their fingers and rhythms, these books are perfect and sooo cheap.
For studies, which they will need for technique after they get the hang of things, I use the First Book Of Progressive Studies followed by the 2nd book of progressive studies (Again cheap and perfect for their level)
For solos there are a few options. The Canadian Brass have their Solos for trumpeters, starting at easy, then beginner, then intermediate. Play along cds are included and are great for them to hear how the harmonies move over their single line of music. You can also try "Tones of Tunes for Trumpet" "Easy Classics for the young Trumpet player" and "Festival Solos for trumpet" (That one is by Standard of Excellence as well.)
If they are into jazz you can get them playing some very good jazz solos with band back up using the Jazz Conception books (The first one is called Easy Jazz Conception). Ryan Kisor plays on the cd that comes with it, and they could do much worse than that sound model, that is for sure. They will need to be able to get to the top of that staff for those books though, so that can be a goal for them.
I have been on a book safari for kids for years, i pick up every new thing i find, you should plan on doing that for a long while. Eventually you put together a good pile of material for every set of student needs.
Hope that helps! |
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wilsoncw New Member
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Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:34 am Post subject: |
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Getchell Book 1. |
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Craig Swartz Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 6:18 am Post subject: |
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What ever you do or have them play, get them out of those idiot band methods like Standard of Excellence, etc. They all are 8 bar exercises and build no sense of phrasing, support or endurance. If the kid is a self starter, get them on pop tunes along with the normal fundamentals, and by all means, teach them to read at sight. Without that skill, they'll never do much playing in the real world. At the age level you describe, it's pretty important for most students to have fun, with the music and you. Good luck. |
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ChopsGone Heavyweight Member
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I probably have most of the standard methods, etudes, etc., but the one book my granddaughter prefers above all the others is:
100 Progressive Lessons for Trumpet for the Beginning or Comeback Player
by David Hickman
She likes the progressive, reasonable pacing, the combination of technical exercises, standard musical excerpts, and bits of musical information. Since she's completed her second year of study (the first one was ultra-light and doesn't count for much), we started off at five lessons per day, slowing the pace as we reached the point that she was being challenged a bit.
We're using other methods, solos, school materials, jazz scales, a little of everything, but the Hickman lessons are the core of her lesson plan. When she went on an extended vacation recently, that was the one trumpet book she wanted to take for practice. _________________ Vintage Olds & Reynolds & Selmers galore
Aubertins, Bessons, Calicchios, Courtois, Wild Things, Marcinkiewicz, Ogilbee Thumpet, DeNicola Puje, Kanstuls.... |
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BigGuns Veteran Member
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Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:41 am Post subject: |
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If you're a good teacher, the standard band methods can be fine with a little bit of supplemental exercises. They're only idiot books if they're being taught by a teacher who tries to follow them to a T. |
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dalmavs Veteran Member
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Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 9:17 am Post subject: |
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What about solos? I know which books I like to use, however when it goes to solos I have a harder time. I teach in Ohio so I would be thinking along Ohio's class divison. I know class 1/A, but not any others. Any suggestions? |
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Craig Swartz Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:40 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | If you're a good teacher, the standard band methods can be fine with a little bit of supplemental exercises. They're only idiot books if they're being taught by a teacher who tries to follow them to a T. |
The primary value of such "methods" is that one can teach multiple instruments at once, either in a large group lesson or as an entire band class. For the life of me, I can't imagine why one would resort to using one if they weren't limited to that situation.
For the hell of it sometime, I'm going to try starting some kid using only "Twinkle, Twinkle...", the theme from Beethoven 9 Finale, and "The Saints Go Marching In", utilizing all key signatures and related meters, as well as various tempi to fit different styles as they are introduced. In reality, I'd need a good 3/4 tune as well, maybe "Row, Row...". I could teach about all styles, forms, meter, note values, etc. with a tiny bit of imagination.
If you're better with Finale than I and try this and are successful in creating a new method, send me $1000 for the idea. Thanks, and good luck. |
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BigGuns Veteran Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 9:24 am Post subject: |
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Craig Swartz wrote: | Quote: | If you're a good teacher, the standard band methods can be fine with a little bit of supplemental exercises. They're only idiot books if they're being taught by a teacher who tries to follow them to a T. |
The primary value of such "methods" is that one can teach multiple instruments at once, either in a large group lesson or as an entire band class. For the life of me, I can't imagine why one would resort to using one if they weren't limited to that situation.
For the hell of it sometime, I'm going to try starting some kid using only "Twinkle, Twinkle...", the theme from Beethoven 9 Finale, and "The Saints Go Marching In", utilizing all key signatures and related meters, as well as various tempi to fit different styles as they are introduced. In reality, I'd need a good 3/4 tune as well, maybe "Row, Row...". I could teach about all styles, forms, meter, note values, etc. with a tiny bit of imagination.
If you're better with Finale than I and try this and are successful in creating a new method, send me $1000 for the idea. Thanks, and good luck. |
Haha, that is a great idea, but I beat you to it so I'm keepin my $$ |
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trumpaholic Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 9:43 am Post subject: |
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What I do with young students is to write simple songs some pop and others from the hymn book and put them into simple keys and in a range which they can handle. I use a simple a 40.00 music program Noteworthy Composer which does a great job, is simple to use and keeps the kids interested as they are playing real music and as they develop chops gradually raise the bar and start them on learning the keys. I have been very successful doing this for a long time and once you have saved all the tunes in the computer it is no big deal to just go and change the key and print it off, this way they learn the tune in C and then G folled by F etc.
This along with lip slurs and long tones is what I do.
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richardwy Heavyweight Member
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richj50 wrote: | I really like the Hering 40 Etudes book. Worked wonders for me as a kid and has done the same for my 2nd grader. |
Yup. _________________ 1972 Selmer Radial |
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Conn6B Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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trpt.hick wrote: | 100 PROGRESSIVE LESSONS for the Beginning or Comeback Trumpter
by
David Hickman
This book is really catching on. www.HickmanMusicEditions.com
Sorry for the shameless plug!! |
I just spent a couple of minutes at that link doing a keyword search,
and I couldn't find the book there.
I even did an all-Internet Google search and the only hit was your mention of it here.
- Morris |
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trumpetmike Heavyweight Member
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