K&M flugel stand with a Dillon flugel?

Zachary · Regular Member Joined: 06 Mar 2010 Posts: 13

Anybody happen to know if a Dillon flugelhorn will sit on a K&M flugel stand well?

I like K&M stands in general, I just want to hear a first-hand experience, positive or negative, on this specific horn/stand combo before deciding to get one for my new flugelhorn (I don't want to get the stand just to have the horn wobble on it.)

The horn:
http://www.dillonmusic.com/HeleoCart/ProductPage/DMB-FL-ROSE.aspx

The stand:
http://www.k-m.de/Flugelhorn.3+M55d1c0b6f36.0.html

Anyone who has happened to try both together, Thanks for sharing any feedback.

--Zachary

oljackboy · Veteran Member Joined: 16 Nov 2008 Posts: 290

I got one of those stands to use with my getzen eterna flugelhorn. It was too big to go into the bell on my Taylor Standard.

trpthrld · Heavyweight Member Joined: 09 Mar 2007 Posts: 4806

A buddy of mine recently bought a Dillon flugal and a K&M stand. I picked out the horn for him & suggested he get a Spyder stand instead (my personal preference for a flugal stand - mostly because it's lighter in weight), but he got the K&M.

As far as I know he's not had any problems with the stand, fit-or otherwise.

He has a pic of the new baby sitting on the K&M on his fb page. I just sent him a text asking if he's had any fitting issues & will let ya know as soon as he replies.
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trpthrld · Heavyweight Member Joined: 09 Mar 2007 Posts: 4806

Just got a reply. He says if anything it's a bit loose, but then again - you don't want the bell grabbing the stand when you reach for a horn.

With the big variety of bells and stands available I think as long as the horn is stable and not in jeopardy of tipping over it's a good fit.

Because a flugal has a lower center of gravity it's gonna be more stable on just about any stand. Years ago when I was using all K&M stands I'd swap the legs between my trumpet & flugal stands - the longer legs made the trumpet stand much more balanced & the shorter legs on the flugal worked just fine.
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trumpmac · Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 7:43 am Post subject:

Hi all,
Im the buddy Tim is referring to. I have the Dillon flugel with the 5 leg K&M stand. I would call it a 99% fit. It's not tight at all. Just a tad bit loose. It will wiggle a little bit but you have to make it do it. So I'd say mine is a good set up.

I don't have the weight issue (with equiptment) Tim does. I don't have to lug my stuff around NYC. But it wouldn't be a bad problem to have.

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trpthrld · Heavyweight Member Joined: 09 Mar 2007 Posts: 4806

Tim lugs enough of his own personal weight around the streets of NYC as it is...any chance to do an "equipment diet" and I do it!
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trumpmac · Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 8:56 am Post subject:

Yes, K&M Flugel stand
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trpthrld · Heavyweight Member Joined: 09 Mar 2007 Posts: 4806

The only difference between the 3 & 5- leg K&M is the legs - the cone is the same size whether it's a trumpet or flugal stand.
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trumpmac · Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:57 am Post subject:

Yes. I have both. I just wanted to be as accurate as possible. Also upon further review the Flugel doesn't go all the way down to the bottem of the stand. So maybe it isn't a great fit. Still seems very secure though.

But to the original poster I would go with the Spyder Trumpet stand, for use with the Flugel, (which I think I am going to do) per Tim's recommendation. He is after all....Da Man!

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trpthrld · Heavyweight Member Joined: 09 Mar 2007 Posts: 4806

If you get a Spyder (that Dillon does have tho it's not on their site - around $25) suggest you get one for trumpet. It works fine with flugal plus you won't chance trying to put your trumpet on the flugal peg, which has too big of a bumper for a trumpet and then mess up your bell.
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Zachary · Regular Member Joined: 06 Mar 2010 Posts: 13

Thanks to all for the feedback -- I'll order a Spyder stand and post back once I've some oberservations, good or bad. Thanks again for sharing your experiences!

--Zachary

trpthrld · Heavyweight Member Joined: 09 Mar 2007 Posts: 4806

Something you should do with the Spyder maybe every other month or so is put a few drops of slide lube on the threads. That will help keep them from getting stuck when you open & close the stand.

I use either SpaceFiler or Hetman's - both work perfectly. Just a drop or 2 then close it to spread on the threads.

Another thing (and a lot of guys do this then bitch about the stand) is they tighten it way too tight when they open or close it & then it's stuck like that until you can get a vice grip on it.

Finger tight/snug is all it needs to be stable.
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Thumper · Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 4:25 pm Post subject:

is this for sitting or standing?
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oljackboy · Veteran Member Joined: 16 Nov 2008 Posts: 290

Good advice on not overtightening the Spyders. It's easy to do when you first get them, because the threads work counterclockwise. I have both trumpet and flugel Spyders, they are very stable and pack up small and light. These stands put your horns just above ground level, so work best for sitting. I use mine for standing anyway.

jawsdundun · New Member Joined: 12 Mar 2010 Posts: 8

K&M are the best out there, try get the 5 leg stand and make sure no-one steps on the legs when they're stomping passed your stuff in the pit!!!!!!!!

bwoodard · Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:27 am Post subject:

Side question here.............what is your impression of the Dillon Flugel? I have been considering the rose brass bell version myself. How is the build quality, intonation, etc?

PM me if you don't want to go there in this thread.
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Zachary · Regular Member Joined: 06 Mar 2010 Posts: 13

Sorry to raise a dead topic, just wanted to let folks know that the Dillon flugel plays well (especially considering the $525 price tag) and the Spyder stand Tim recommended works well with it.

I'm surprised I ordered the horn 2/21 and it just came in today (good thing I'm a patient guy I guess

) -- otherwise, Dillon's service was great.

--Zachary

Crazy Finn · Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 7:08 pm Post subject: