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silverhorn
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 Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:38 pm Post subject: Re: Yamaha 631 vs 635 vs 6310Z |
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| trumpetfun wrote: | Hey there!
Yet another Yamaha flugelhorn thread. 
Which one do you prefer and why? I am playing on a 631 red brass flugelhorn from the 90s. A very good horn. Like it very much. I also had a 635 some time ago and also tested a 6310Z but I do not like the sound that much. It is too bright for my taste. What do you guys say?
Thanks and all the best from Austria,
Markus |
I have the same horn from the same era. I've never found a need for anything else as far as flugelhorns go. Great looks and flugel sound! The 631 red brass flugel is a classic.  |
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Bill Blackwell
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| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Adam V wrote: | | ... Right now I have a Kanstul 1525, but I feel like it's too tubby and trombonish in terms of sound. I'm looking for a flugel with a lighter, fluffier sound with lots of warmth. |
Adam:
Make an appointment with Charles at Kanstul and give the 1025 a try. It might be just what you're looking for.
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AlfaFreak
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| Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:42 am Post subject: |
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BTW: How do I vote?
Also, what is the best way to post an mp3 to this forum? I have a recording of Australian Trumpeter James Morrison performing the Bobby Shew chart "One In A Million" on MY YFH-6310Z with a highschool Big Band i used to be involved with. Recorded in Tokyo in 2005.
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jlocke13844@gmail.com
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| Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:02 pm Post subject: Love my 635 |
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Hi all,
I am a newbie to the world of pro-quality flugelhorns, and recently purchased a mid-90s model 635T, which (I believe, but am open to correction) is the predecessor to the 6310Z. From what I read, the 635T was only in production for a short time.
Tonight at practice, I picked up a friend's Shew. His 6310Z looks identical to mine. Next week I will put them side by side.
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bach_again
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| Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Adam V wrote: | | John Mohan wrote: |
Love my 631 by the way. I've had it since around 1977. Wore through the original silver plate years ago, and got a 1st valve trigger installed and gold plating in 2004. |
John,
How would you describe the sound of the 631 compared to other Yamaha models (731, 631G, 6310Z)?
Out of all those horns I mentioned, the 631 is the only one I can't get my hands on to test... Right now I have a Kanstul 1525, but I feel like it's too tubby and trombonish in terms of sound. I'm looking for a flugel with a lighter, fluffier sound with lots of warmth. |
Adam,
What mouthpiece do you use? I find with my 1525 to get that light fluffy sound I play slightly smaller gear than you'd normally consider. I use a Marc Shew piece and it's not at all trombone-y. To me the 1525 continues the French lineage of actual flugelhorn, similarly the Shew flugelhorns in this thread also do.
Good luck, and definitely try some mouthpieces before throwing out the baby with the bath water so to speak. The only horn that impressed me more was a nice old Couesnon. Shame Phil Parkers in London didn't reply to my email enquiring about the serial no etc... they probably would have sold it if they had. Oh well, it was over priced. I'll find another!
Mike
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etc-etc
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| Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 1:20 am Post subject: |
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| bach_again wrote: | | Adam V wrote: | | John Mohan wrote: |
Love my 631 by the way. I've had it since around 1977. Wore through the original silver plate years ago, and got a 1st valve trigger installed and gold plating in 2004. |
John,
How would you describe the sound of the 631 compared to other Yamaha models (731, 631G, 6310Z)?
Out of all those horns I mentioned, the 631 is the only one I can't get my hands on to test... Right now I have a Kanstul 1525, but I feel like it's too tubby and trombonish in terms of sound. I'm looking for a flugel with a lighter, fluffier sound with lots of warmth. |
Adam,
What mouthpiece do you use? I find with my 1525 to get that light fluffy sound I play slightly smaller gear than you'd normally consider. I use a Marc Shew piece and it's not at all trombone-y. To me the 1525 continues the French lineage of actual flugelhorn, similarly the Shew flugelhorns in this thread also do.
Good luck, and definitely try some mouthpieces before throwing out the baby with the bath water so to speak. The only horn that impressed me more was a nice old Couesnon. Shame Phil Parkers in London didn't reply to my email enquiring about the serial no etc... they probably would have sold it if they had. Oh well, it was over priced. I'll find another!
Mike |
Chances are Adam might not reply - he last posted on TH in 2014 (and in this thread, in 2010 - close to seven years ago). |
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bach_again
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| Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 2:04 am Post subject: |
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| etc-etc wrote: | | bach_again wrote: | | Adam V wrote: | | John Mohan wrote: |
Love my 631 by the way. I've had it since around 1977. Wore through the original silver plate years ago, and got a 1st valve trigger installed and gold plating in 2004. |
John,
How would you describe the sound of the 631 compared to other Yamaha models (731, 631G, 6310Z)?
Out of all those horns I mentioned, the 631 is the only one I can't get my hands on to test... Right now I have a Kanstul 1525, but I feel like it's too tubby and trombonish in terms of sound. I'm looking for a flugel with a lighter, fluffier sound with lots of warmth. |
Adam,
What mouthpiece do you use? I find with my 1525 to get that light fluffy sound I play slightly smaller gear than you'd normally consider. I use a Marc Shew piece and it's not at all trombone-y. To me the 1525 continues the French lineage of actual flugelhorn, similarly the Shew flugelhorns in this thread also do.
Good luck, and definitely try some mouthpieces before throwing out the baby with the bath water so to speak. The only horn that impressed me more was a nice old Couesnon. Shame Phil Parkers in London didn't reply to my email enquiring about the serial no etc... they probably would have sold it if they had. Oh well, it was over priced. I'll find another!
Mike |
Chances are Adam might not reply - he last posted on TH in 2014 (and in this thread, in 2010 - close to seven years ago). |
Ah - I thought Adam hadn't posted in a long time!! It seems jlocke13844@gmail.com awoke this old thread with related questions. I guess this is one of the peculiarities with message boards!
Mike
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MandyChaps
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| Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:37 pm Post subject: Re: Love my 635 |
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| jlocke13844@gmail.com wrote: | Hi all,
I am a newbie to the world of pro-quality flugelhorns, and recently purchased a mid-90s model 635T, which (I believe, but am open to correction) is the predecessor to the 6310Z. From what I read, the 635T was only in production for a short time.
Tonight at practice, I picked up a friend's Shew. His 6310Z looks identical to mine. Next week I will put them side by side.
Jon |
I'm also a newbie to the "world of pro-quality flugelhorns" as you call it. Just purchased a used 635T. When I tested it out it sounded lovely and played just fine. It's in for a sonic bath now before I really get a chance to dig into it. I'd love to hear how it worked out.
Amanda
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MiddleStaff
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Love my mid 90’s 631GS.
Mouthpiece I like is a Marcinkiewicz 7FLB. It feels similar to my Shilke 14A4 as it’s a bit shallow for a flugelhorn mouthpiece.
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