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heavyharmonies Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 6:21 am Post subject: |
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I don't speak Froggish, so I'm not entirely sure.
My gut impulse is Koo-eh-NON (with the second N in NON being almost silent) or KOO-eh-non.
T'anx,
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Jarrett Ellis Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 6:24 am Post subject: |
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I prefer just to "redneck-ize" everything... helps for us foreign relaytuns
Cuse'non? WHatsat same kinda new fayngled adickshun programs?
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Balt58 Regular Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 6:26 am Post subject: |
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It's pronounced "Kwee-non". That's the way it was listed in phonetics in their old Gretch ads in the 60's. _________________ "Actors find God. Musicians find jazz..."
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trickg Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 6:27 am Post subject: |
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I've also heard it pronounced "Quay-non", but yeah, I think the more common pronunciation is "kwee-non" _________________ Patrick Gleason
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musiclifeline Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 6:35 am Post subject: |
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Nicknamed "Queenie" by those owning or seeking one. |
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jhatpro Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 6:47 am Post subject: |
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Okay, here's one for you. A friend asked me to try to sell his Noblet clarinet for him. I don't even know how to pronounce it. Is it No-BLET as in clari-NET, OR No-BLAY (as in clari-NAY)? _________________ Jim Hatfield
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MarkHeuer Veteran Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 7:15 am Post subject: |
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I've always said "kwee-suh-non".
I guess I was wrong. |
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gus Veteran Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 8:54 am Post subject: |
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Koo-es-non
Not sure if the s is silent or not. But the first
sylabe is oo for sure.
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_FELIX C Veteran Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 9:23 am Post subject: |
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I have heard ku-son,
I pronounce coues-non
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musiclifeline Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 9:44 am Post subject: |
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No, it really is "KWEE-non". |
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Tom K. Veteran Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 10:14 am Post subject: |
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But WHAT the queen is on is another matter... |
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David Veteran Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 10:24 am Post subject: |
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Yep, I've always heard "queen on" _________________ Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and it annoys the pig. |
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lonelyangel Veteran Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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Kway-no(n). The second n is not really sounded and the o is like the o sound in orange.
That's how we say it in Blighty and we are only 20 odd miles away from La France - any french THers to clear this up?
By the way Couesnon flugels are THE instrument of choice amongst London's session players. In particular the Bill Lewington models imported by the shop of the same name (sadly closed down some years ago - leaving the West End bereft of any serious brass outlet) during the 1960s. One of these in good condition should easily fetch $1500!!
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trumpetmike Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2003 12:44 am Post subject: |
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Monsieur L’Anglais
Bon
That’s the way I have been told to pronounce it. Admittedly I am English (so know nothing about French), but I have been assured (by people that would know) that we are correct.
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jhaysom Veteran Member
Joined: 13 Nov 2001 Posts: 313 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2003 9:43 am Post subject: |
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Here's an answer from bilingual Canada:
ques non
except that the final n is not really pronounced and that syllable has a nasal sound.
I checked this out with my Francophone colleagues. _________________ John Haysom
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BeboppinFool Donald Reinhardt Forum Moderator
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2003 10:44 am Post subject: |
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Hmmm, I've always heard it pronounced "kwee KNOWN" ("non" would not have the long o sound, but "known" has the long o sound).
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jhaysom Veteran Member
Joined: 13 Nov 2001 Posts: 313 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2003 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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Bulletin!!!! Bulletin!!!!
This just in --
I asked three more of my Fracophone collegues and got two more answers --
cooz - non
que - non (i.e. que as in question, s is silent)
The difficulty is that this is not a name found in Quebec and it's an unusual French spelling. So I guess any of these may be right. It's a matter of what pronunciation the Couesnon family uses.
In response to Rich, I've been struggling with how to explain to Americans (and Canadians from West of Ottawa for that matter) how to pronounce the French nasal vowels such as the non in Couesnon and then I remembered that trumpet players always like to discuss tongue positions. (Whoa! Whoa! I meant in the context of embouchure. You have a dirty mind!)
If you think of the "tah" tonguing position and use it when you try to say a long OH sound non and leave it there so that you can't say the final n, I think you'll get it. _________________ John Haysom
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pastbrass Veteran Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2003 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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Sacre bleu...Kwee-known.
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Freddieh. Veteran Member
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2003 7:51 am Post subject: |
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Ques -like question- and no- like north !
But without question they are built east of New York, or west of L.A. |
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