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stevealb Regular Member
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Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2003 11:55 am Post subject: |
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Does anyone know the reason why the CSO is auditioning for a new principal trumpet? |
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mafields627 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2003 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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Craig Morris has taken a teaching position at the University of Miami. _________________ --Matt--
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HorneyMikey Veteran Member
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Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2003 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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Also, from what I heard, Craig was not granted tenure.
Can anybody verify this?
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elbobogrande Heavyweight Member
Joined: 12 Feb 2002 Posts: 1222 Location: Tucson, AZ
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elbobogrande Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2003 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not normally one for gossip, but...Does anyone have any speculation as to who on earth might be able to step up and fill this spot?
Also, welcome to the forum, Steve.
John
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Williams Veteran Member
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Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2003 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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I believe John Rommel could do it or Mark Ridenour _________________ Music!!! |
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thelurker Veteran Member
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2003 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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[ This Message was edited by: thelurker on 2003-10-12 07:40 ] |
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oj Heavyweight Member
Joined: 06 Jan 2003 Posts: 1699 Location: Norway
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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2003 2:26 am Post subject: |
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Why not Tage Larsen ?
These old (1800-type) orchestras has mostly white men sitting there in black suits...
.. and an older white man with a stick in front, dressed like a penguin.
Still today (in 2003), you don't see many African American people or women in these orchestras.
Either change that, or put these orchestras in a museum.
So, CSO, now's your chance to be brave:
*** Put Tage on principal trumpet!!! ***
Ole :wink:
[ This Message was edited by: oj on 2003-08-09 05:27 ] |
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romey1 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2003 5:30 am Post subject: |
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NOBODY will be "put" in the chair.
There will be an audition.
There will be several rounds.
There may or may not be a winner.
Why don't we all just wait and see what happens, and stop this fruitless SPECULATION and "Arm-Chair Quarterbacking."
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oj Heavyweight Member
Joined: 06 Jan 2003 Posts: 1699 Location: Norway
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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2003 5:55 am Post subject: |
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Well, imagine if they used such methods when selecting "a principal" for a nation?
The next time you guys "over there" selected a president it would not be just a guy "put" in the chair because of his heritage (the son of a former principal) and because of his connections to multinational companies.
Or in Italy, there would not be a guy "in the chair" (prime minister) that got there because he owned most ot the media.
And it would not be "a guy" who could stop the judges from prosecuting him.
All in all, we should not worry so much about the selections of principal trumpets. I'm sure they will find a good guy or even a girl.
More to worry about the selection of "principals of nations".
O.J. :smile:
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valvepimp Veteran Member
Joined: 24 Jun 2003 Posts: 496 Location: New York, NY
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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2003 5:59 am Post subject: |
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On 2003-08-09 05:26, oj wrote:
Why not Tage Larsen ?
These old (1800-type) orchestras has mostly white men sitting there in black suits...
.. and an older white man with a stick in front, dressed like a penguin.
Still today (in 2003), you don't see many African American people or women in these orchestras.
Either change that, or put these orchestras in a museum.
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Mr Larsen himself discusses being African American and auditioning in the world of Classical music in the following article:
http://www.ccchronicle.com/back/2002-10-07/arts8.html
One could also ask why, with so many Asians sitting in the string sections of top orchestras, the brass sections seem to have a paucity of them. Similarly you could ask why Blacks are so well-represented in sports such as Baseball, Football, and Basketball, but not in Ice Hockey. I think what Mr. Larsen suggests might be a valid reason for any of these: lack of interest. Simply put - get more African American trumpet players interested in Orchestral playing, and you will have that many more going on auditions, and that many more winning positions. I should probably give Jerome Ashby a call and get his unique perspective on the matter. He plays principal french horn for the New York Philharmonic, and he and I were friends in Junior and Senior High School. At least in the trumpet world, there are plenty of successful African American players, whereas with the french horn, I feel Mr. Ashby, who is Black, may find it lonely at the top. _________________
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romey1 Heavyweight Member
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valvepimp Veteran Member
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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2003 7:09 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the clarification, Romey. In fact, I knew him to have been associate principal some years back, but recently I have seen him playing principal on certain occasions, and incorrectly assumed he had advanced to that position. _________________
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romey1 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2003 9:09 am Post subject: |
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valvepimp,
I think Myers has been out of comission recently, due to "Al Roker" surgery.
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Irving Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2003 9:31 am Post subject: |
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Don't kid yourself Mzony. There are some reptiles out there that can really play their tails off. |
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jhatpro Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2003 10:13 am Post subject: |
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I had a nice conversation with Craig a few weeks ago when he paid a visit to try out a Martin Committee I had for sale. I didn't put him on the spot to ask "what happened" at the CSO, but he mentioned he was on his way to Coral Gables to teach at the U. of Miami, and he seemed very excited about the prospect. He said, in fact, that he is looking forward to playing some salsa.
We did talk a bit about the pressure associated with playing principal -- or playing anything, for that matter -- in a top orchestra and he said it's huge, and he seemed to me like he's relieved to be moving on.
I hadn't met Craig before this and I can say you won't find a more pleasant guy. After he tried the horn for a while we played some of Rich Willey's bop duets and had a blast.
It's always nice when you run into a great player who's also a great person. _________________ Jim Hatfield
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No BS Veteran Member
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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2003 10:35 am Post subject: |
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I don't like posting rumors...but this came from a pretty good source. Craig Morris will fill in for Bob Sullivan in the NY Phil. next year. Can anyone verify this? |
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pitchlevel Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2003 10:49 am Post subject: |
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havent heard that but i know that bob is supposed to play associate in cleveland from september to december. i wouldve bet that another guy would have gotten the call to fill in for bob whom i wont name, but thats the way things go sometimes. |
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romey1 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2003 11:08 am Post subject: |
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romey
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senea Veteran Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 6:28 am Post subject: |
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I am a Puerto Rican woman trumpet player - not many of those I imagine- and Mzony, I would be the first one to rip into someone if he was being a bigot. But I completely agree with you (maybe I'm a bigot too then) - people need to pay their dues and earn their jobs.
So if a Puerto Rican woman trumpet player never makes a full-time orchestra, it's because one didn't earn that for herself.
senea
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