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pair of kings Heavyweight Member
Joined: 30 Jan 2002 Posts: 1013 Location: York, PA
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2003 6:58 am Post subject: |
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I saw that Marek is in the Market place looking for flugel mutes. I don't get the idea that he really checks out the forum but thought it was a subject would interest our good friend Rich
I've never had a reason to mute a flugelhorn .... but a few years ago I bought a used trombone that came with a cup and a straight mute. Somehow I figured out that they did more or less fit my flugel.
why would you mute a flugel anyway?
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trumplyr Heavyweight Member
Joined: 03 Oct 2003 Posts: 1069 Location: Rochester Hills, Mi.
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2003 7:14 am Post subject: |
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GordonH Heavyweight Member
Joined: 16 Nov 2002 Posts: 2895 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2003 7:15 am Post subject: |
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Years ago i wanted aharmon mute for a flugel and after trying to order a humes and berg (unsuccessfully even though its in their catalogue) I ended up with a trombone one which was ok but not ideal was OK but not ideal as it didnt sound quite right.
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FatPauly Heavyweight Member
Joined: 04 Jan 2003 Posts: 678 Location: Ellicott City, Maryland
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2003 7:26 am Post subject: |
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So they don't breed?
> pair of kings wrote:
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> ...why would you mute a flugel anyway?
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> just curious.
- Paul Artola
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pair of kings Heavyweight Member
Joined: 30 Jan 2002 Posts: 1013 Location: York, PA
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2003 7:34 am Post subject: |
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Ha Ha Ha! good one Paul!
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I just checked back here and saw the reply with the ???????
so what is the question?
I thought maybe it was my reference to Rich that didn't make sense,
-- --Were there some posts deleted here on the C/F forum this week?
Did I make it all up or was there an animated discussion on the merits of the flugelhorn? |
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BeboppinFool Donald Reinhardt Forum Moderator
Joined: 28 Dec 2001 Posts: 6437 Location: AVL|NC|USA
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2003 9:25 am Post subject: |
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On 2003-10-19 09:58, pair of kings wrote:
why would you mute a flugel anyway?
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Because you noticed that Rich Willey was in the audience?
[Yeah, there goes that Rich Wiley (notice the misspelling) dishing it out again!]
Rich _________________ Puttin’ On The Ritz |
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pair of kings Heavyweight Member
Joined: 30 Jan 2002 Posts: 1013 Location: York, PA
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2003 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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glad you liked that, Rich.
--We're getting ready to bop out with some duets so I thought of you and just checked in here 1st. I was going to try them on trombone, but maybe I'll go with flugel & cup mute instead. We'll get some sound clips (ouch) |
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trumplyr Heavyweight Member
Joined: 03 Oct 2003 Posts: 1069 Location: Rochester Hills, Mi.
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2003 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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Pair of Kings,
????????? translates into "Uhhhhhhhhh................I don't know" |
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James B. Quick Heavyweight Member
Joined: 17 Feb 2003 Posts: 2067 Location: La Crosse, WI
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2003 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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I use a Jo-Ral Trombone Bubble Harmon-type mute in my flugel. It is free blowing and gives a nice tone for pieces like 'Moonlight in Vermont". I tried the Jo-Ral Harmon -style mute for flugel, but it is an odd thing, with three corks like a straight mute, and a bubble on the end, but I didn't like it... jbqd |
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bophead Heavyweight Member
Joined: 09 Jan 2003 Posts: 837 Location: portland, oregon
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 5:15 am Post subject: |
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I heard Art Farmer using a harmon on a flugel. Just like anything else Art did on the flugel, it was warm, tasty and thought provoking. I went out and got the same mute that Art played (the same type jbquick speaks of). I don't get the same sound Art got though, it must be the horn. _________________ Earl
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musiclifeline Heavyweight Member
Joined: 07 Nov 2002 Posts: 1045 Location: New Orleans, LA
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 8:37 am Post subject: |
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Believe it or not, I actually have a Manny Klein ssh-ssh! Mute for my Flugel. Basically, I have a practice studio where I play, but if I want to play in my apartment, I have to use a mute. If I want to practice something on flugel that I forgot to work on in the studio, I pop in the H&B and I'm good to go. It's reasonably free blowing and in tune up to about D above high C. |
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Keith E Miland Regular Member
Joined: 11 Mar 2003 Posts: 82 Location: Winona, MN
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Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 6:04 am Post subject: |
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In other parts of the world, the flugel is more than just jazz instrument.
British style brass band music often calls for mutes for the flugel. Apparently the composer/arranger wants a specfic tone quality. In overture to Mack and Mabel, the flugel has a counter melody to to a muted solo cornet melody. The flugel part calls for a mute I guess to "match" the cornet. It sounds better when the flugel is muted.
As a side comment, there are even brass band pieces that call for mutes for Eb tenor horns, euponiums and even tubas.
FWIW
If only I could type and spell I wouldn't spend half my time editing.
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Keith E Miland
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[ This Message was edited by: Keith E Miland on 2003-10-21 09:08 ]
[ This Message was edited by: Keith E Miland on 2003-10-21 09:09 ] |
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Bill Dishman Heavyweight Member
Joined: 06 Feb 2003 Posts: 1174
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Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:43 am Post subject: |
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I got a Jo-ral Harmon for Flugelhorn. It fits my Cuesnon great. The only problem was that the corks were similar to a straight mute and did not wrap around the end like a typical harmon. I took the old corks off and put a strip of sheet cork on to seal the bell and it works great. Has a deep tone quality and plays in tune well also. Very expensive though.
Bill Dishman
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GordonH Heavyweight Member
Joined: 16 Nov 2002 Posts: 2895 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
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Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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I heard Maynard Ferguson play But Beautiful at a concert once using a harmon mute in his flugel. _________________ Bb - Scherzer 8218W, Schilke S22, Bach 43, Selmer 19A Balanced
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