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Forgiving |
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He owes me repairs plus extra |
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No forgiveness |
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zackh411 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 17 May 2011 Posts: 1886 Location: Saint Louis MO
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Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 3:24 pm Post subject: How mad should i be? |
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Trumanjazzguy just put a dent in the bell of my pristine stomvi Vr2... How upset should i be?
Clarifications:
it was a total accident
nobody is really mad at anyone
it's not a really bad dent, and he offered to pay for it _________________ ~Zack
Lead Piece: Custom PickettBrass
Jazz Piece: Custom Curry TC
Legit Piece: Yamaha Shew Jazz (18 Drill)
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david mickley Heavyweight Member
Joined: 27 May 2009 Posts: 712 Location: Indianapolis, In.
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Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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if he pays to fix your horn, forgive him. life is to short to hold a grudge. _________________ Chicago Benge 33XX
Burbank Benge 5X 59XX
Yamaha Flugel 231
assorted other horns |
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musicalmason1 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 08 Apr 2005 Posts: 731 Location: Pa
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Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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Assuming you gave him permission to play/handle the horn...and assuming you didn't try to work it out with him before posting this...I think he should be madder at you than you him...accidents happen. If he refuses to make it right, then you should be mad. Is that the case? Has he refused to compensate for the damage? |
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VetPsychWars Heavyweight Member
Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 7196 Location: Greenfield WI
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Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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david mickley wrote: | if he pays to fix your horn, forgive him. life is to short to hold a grudge. |
This.
**** happens. An expert makes the **** unhappen. I'm with the other guys, you must be really mad right now. Calm the frak down.
No one can tell you how to feel, and I wouldn't pretend to. By all means rage... in private. It's your privilege. Let the man pay for his mistake and call it done.
Tom _________________ 1950 Buescher Lightweight 400 Trumpet
1949 Buescher 400 Trumpet
1939 Buescher 400 Cornet
GR65M, GR65 Cor #1 |
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Jerry Heavyweight Member
Joined: 20 Jan 2002 Posts: 2177 Location: Kennett Square, Pennsylvania
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Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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Be as mad as you care to for now. However, once a little time passes, forgive him.
The right thing is for him to pay to fix your horn. |
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crzytptman Heavyweight Member
Joined: 03 Sep 2003 Posts: 10124 Location: Escondido California
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Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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About a month ago I was doing a gig with a long time horn section mate sax player. We have been friends for many years, and he is also my shooting buddy. We have played in many bands together, and done lots of recordings as well.
So, we're playing for a donors party at an art museum in Balboa Park. It's a very live room, and the only mics are for 2 vocalists. We both have big sounds, and are handling the space quite well. At the last minute, he decides to set up his hot spot. He starts frantically pulling cords out of his bag as we have about 5 minutes. He has his back to me, but then I hear a "thunk" and look down and see a big dent right above the oak tree on the bell of my Wild Thing. My friend had yanked a mic cord out of his bag with 2 feet of slack, and the xlr tip went straight for my bell! I couldn't believe it! I had to look at that thing the whole gig. Yes I was mad.
Flip did his best to take the dent out, but there's still a wrinkle. I have vintage horns that have character, and it doesn't bother me because I got them that way. Now my WT has character, and I have a story about my friend, who I still love. That's life! Horn still plays and sounds great. _________________ Crazy Nate - Fine Yet Mellow Fellow
"so full of it I don't know where to start"
Horn: "just mismatched Kanstul spare parts"
- TH member and advertiser (name withheld) |
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brassjunky Veteran Member
Joined: 21 Jul 2012 Posts: 336 Location: Down Under
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Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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some form of excruciating torture would be best, after all he dinged your horn, maybe lock him in a cupboard with hairy spiders or when is not looking put some chewing gum down the bell of his horn. _________________ Cannonball 789RSL
YFH635ST Flugel
Blessing Artist Cornet (1947) |
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crzytptman Heavyweight Member
Joined: 03 Sep 2003 Posts: 10124 Location: Escondido California
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Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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Wait for him to put his horn on the stand, then wipe a little tobasco on the mpc. _________________ Crazy Nate - Fine Yet Mellow Fellow
"so full of it I don't know where to start"
Horn: "just mismatched Kanstul spare parts"
- TH member and advertiser (name withheld) |
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LittleRusty Heavyweight Member
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 12705 Location: Gardena, Ca
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Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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crzytptman wrote: | Wait for him to put his horn on the stand, then wipe a little tobasco on the mpc. |
This ^^^^
But wait until he pays or states he won't. |
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VetPsychWars Heavyweight Member
Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 7196 Location: Greenfield WI
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Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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LittleRusty wrote: | crzytptman wrote: | Wait for him to put his horn on the stand, then wipe a little tobasco on the mpc. |
This ^^^^
But wait until he pays or states he won't. |
What are you, twelve?
Tom _________________ 1950 Buescher Lightweight 400 Trumpet
1949 Buescher 400 Trumpet
1939 Buescher 400 Cornet
GR65M, GR65 Cor #1 |
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RandyTX Heavyweight Member
Joined: 25 Mar 2010 Posts: 5304 Location: Central Texas
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Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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You have to ask? It's a trumpet forum. |
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LittleRusty Heavyweight Member
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 12705 Location: Gardena, Ca
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Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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VetPsychWars wrote: | LittleRusty wrote: | crzytptman wrote: | Wait for him to put his horn on the stand, then wipe a little tobasco on the mpc. |
This ^^^^
But wait until he pays or states he won't. |
What are you, twelve?
Tom |
A little older than that, add more than a few decades. I read this and found it to be very funny. I am sorry you didn't.
As far as pranks go this is mild. For instance squeezing habernero oil on the mouthpiecs would be considerably worse.
Maybe putting some of the sour powder on it would be milder? |
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crzytptman Heavyweight Member
Joined: 03 Sep 2003 Posts: 10124 Location: Escondido California
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Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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You could always roll up a booger and drop it down the mpc. That should get you a couple more years.
Gotta go . . _________________ Crazy Nate - Fine Yet Mellow Fellow
"so full of it I don't know where to start"
Horn: "just mismatched Kanstul spare parts"
- TH member and advertiser (name withheld) |
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Adam V Heavyweight Member
Joined: 12 Nov 2008 Posts: 1765 Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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Why..? _________________ 1970 Bach 37 Strad
Yamaha 635 flugel
Marcinkiewicz E3/3C |
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mchs3d Veteran Member
Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 460
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Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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My trumpets get dented and I don't know who does it. Oh well. It's just the way it is sometime. |
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INTJ Heavyweight Member
Joined: 25 Dec 2002 Posts: 1986 Location: Northern Idaho
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Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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crzytptman wrote: | ............and he is also my shooting buddy. ........... |
Nate,
As you know, armed people are very polite people.............. _________________ Harrels VPS Summit
Wild Thing
Flip Oakes C
Flip Oakes Flugel
Harrelson 5mm MP |
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Pete Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Nov 2001 Posts: 1739 Location: Western Massachusetts
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Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 1:58 am Post subject: |
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You'll live. You are asking for advice on human interaction? Make your own judgement.
Pete |
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Louise Finch Heavyweight Member
Joined: 10 Aug 2012 Posts: 5468 Location: Suffolk, England
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Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 4:29 am Post subject: |
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Hi
These things happen. Most of the time, you don't know who did it, and if the damage is smaller, don't notice it straight away (like when I clean my car, I notice small scrapes where people have kindly driven into it when parking, opened their door on it etc.).
If someone owned up and offered to pay, I'd take them up on the offer, showing them the cost of repairs upfront, so that they knew that I was only taking what it cost me to repair.
If they didn't offer, I would think that this was poor behaviour on their part, but I wouldn't ask for money, or name them on a public forum.
All the best
Lou _________________ Trumpets:
Yamaha 8335 Xeno II
Bach Strad 180ML/37
B&H Oxford
Kanstul F Besson C
Yamaha D and D/Eb
- James R New Custom 3Cs
Flugel:
Bach Strad 183 - Bach 3CFL
Cornets:
Yamaha Neo + Xeno
Bach Strad 184ML
B&H Imperial
- Kanstul Custom 3Cs |
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chuck in ny Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Sep 2006 Posts: 3610 Location: New York
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Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 5:10 am Post subject: |
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let it go. pay for the repairs and get the work done. it's straightforward. then you will see whether your friend pays up or not. if he doesn't, you have learned something.
it's a nice instrument. you have to play it and enjoy it. the friend, you may or may not need.
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davidkoch Heavyweight Member
Joined: 27 Dec 2007 Posts: 1298 Location: Everywhere
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Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 5:43 am Post subject: |
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Forgive him. Accidents happen.
How big is the dent? Pics? _________________ Hi, my name is David and I'm a trumpetaholic. |
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