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Adam R. Getzen Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:11 am Post subject: Official New Getzen Flugelhorn |
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Hello everyone,
I stated in another thread that I would begin posting some finalized specs on a flugelhorn that is nearing completion. I will post in this thread new details every so often and take questions regarding previously posted specs only.
Let's start with the bell:
Copper
Two-piece sheet
twenty-two gauge
semi-round bend _________________ Adam R. Getzen
Vice President & Co-Owner
Getzen Company |
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Adam R. Getzen Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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The slide configuration:
The slides are similar to the 3895 but are slanted outward. There were three things we immediately noticed.
1. This had no affect on the sound of the horn but did however close the grip making the hold much more comfortable.
2. Although the current "beta" weighs .3 ounces less it feels much lighter due to the over all balance.
3. Out of necessity we had to redesign the trigger in both appearance and function. _________________ Adam R. Getzen
Vice President & Co-Owner
Getzen Company |
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bspickler Veteran Member
Joined: 08 Sep 2004 Posts: 272 Location: Denver, CO
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Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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Adam, Thanks for all of the information. It would be nice to see some pictures. _________________ Bill |
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Adam R. Getzen Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 6:31 am Post subject: |
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bspickler wrote: | Adam, Thanks for all of the information. It would be nice to see some pictures. |
I will be posting some of the test models probably today. _________________ Adam R. Getzen
Vice President & Co-Owner
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gbdeamer Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 6:59 am Post subject: |
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Adam R. Getzen wrote: | bspickler wrote: | Adam, Thanks for all of the information. It would be nice to see some pictures. |
I will be posting some of the test models probably today. |
"Probably"???
What a tease... |
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Adam R. Getzen Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:26 am Post subject: |
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gbdeamer wrote: | Adam R. Getzen wrote: | bspickler wrote: | Adam, Thanks for all of the information. It would be nice to see some pictures. |
I will be posting some of the test models probably today. |
"Probably"???
What a tease... |
I'll throw in a bonus for you. _________________ Adam R. Getzen
Vice President & Co-Owner
Getzen Company |
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Adam R. Getzen Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:00 am Post subject: |
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There you go. Note that this is an early concept horn with no trigger, old trim/ferrules etc. _________________ Adam R. Getzen
Vice President & Co-Owner
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bspickler Veteran Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:09 am Post subject: |
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Thanks. That's interesting the way the slides are slanted in there. _________________ Bill |
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Adam R. Getzen Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:17 am Post subject: |
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bspickler wrote: | Thanks. That's interesting the way the slides are slanted in there. |
It is much more ergonomic. It also allowed us to redesign the trigger which is not in the picture. _________________ Adam R. Getzen
Vice President & Co-Owner
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leadbell Regular Member
Joined: 06 Oct 2013 Posts: 36 Location: Northern Virginia
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Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 10:39 am Post subject: |
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I am gonna start putting money into the flugelhorn account again.
and dry the drool out of my keyboard, that is a cool looking horn! _________________ '16 Buescher Model 15
'18 Buescher Model 15 LP
'25 Buescher Model 9 LP
'51 Buescher Aristocrat trombone
and a lamp made from a Czech "Symphony" trumpet that was beyond repair. |
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Adam R. Getzen Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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Valve Section:
1. The valve bodies are made out of a bronze alloy and the crooks coming out of them are gold brass.
2. The ballisters, finger buttons, top caps and bottom caps are new.
3. The horn will come standard with a heavier weight #3 bottom cap.
The bronze material is pretty interesting in this situation. It has a noticeable affect on the color, response and feel while playing. It isn't radical by any means but it is something we've not done before. Of course the pistons will come with a lifetime warranty. This is a picture of the "beta" which is nearly the production model.
edit: I forgot to mention the nickel bracing between the valve bodies. _________________ Adam R. Getzen
Vice President & Co-Owner
Getzen Company
Last edited by Adam R. Getzen on Thu Nov 21, 2013 12:19 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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musicalmason1 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 08 Apr 2005 Posts: 731 Location: Pa
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Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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Adam,
Great looking horn. I can't wait to try it. I'm also very happy to see a standard water key. I always have trouble emptying the water out of the amados on my flugel....I do prefer them on my Bb's but having a standard water key on a flugel to me, is a big plus.
edit: Clearly there are two different horns there, as the top picture has amados....so maybe this will be an option? Just saying, it is an option that I would choose, if I were buying a horn. _________________ Bach 37 ml melk 525 mk sterling semi round slide
Curry 60 series
www.SeanMasonMusic.com
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TrentAustin Heavyweight Member
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Adam R. Getzen Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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musicalmason1 wrote: | Adam,
Great looking horn. I can't wait to try it. I'm also very happy to see a standard water key. I always have trouble emptying the water out of the amados on my flugel....I do prefer them on my Bb's but having a standard water key on a flugel to me, is a big plus.
edit: Clearly there are two different horns there, as the top picture has amados....so maybe this will be an option? Just saying, it is an option that I would choose, if I were buying a horn. |
There will be no amados on any horn that I design for the Custom Reserve line. I have eight concept horns and the "beta" in my office right now. I was using different horns to show different features. _________________ Adam R. Getzen
Vice President & Co-Owner
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Adam R. Getzen Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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TrentAustin wrote: | Very cool! Will you have one at Midwest or just at NAMM? Either way I can't wait to check it out!
Best,
T |
I'm not sure we will have a production model at Midwest but we will absolutely have one at NAMM. _________________ Adam R. Getzen
Vice President & Co-Owner
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veery715 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 13 Aug 2007 Posts: 4313 Location: Ithaca NY
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Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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The caps remind me of the Genesis. And I wonder, if anyone will find they squeeze the slides, resulting in deformation or other valve issues. I certainly wouldn't but I still wonder. Trigger placement may prevent that.
Very interesting, for sure. I love the colors! _________________ veery715
Hear me sing!: https://youtu.be/vtJ14MV64WY
Playing trumpet - the healthy way to blow your brains out. |
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musicalmason1 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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I hold my current flugel by the slides and have never had a problem. I don't see how the different angle would be any more prone to damage, providing it is braced well. I suppose anything is possible though. _________________ Bach 37 ml melk 525 mk sterling semi round slide
Curry 60 series
www.SeanMasonMusic.com
www.AlsMusicShopNY.com
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veery715 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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musicalmason1 wrote: | I hold my current flugel by the slides and have never had a problem. I don't see how the different angle would be any more prone to damage, providing it is braced well. I suppose anything is possible though. | Squeezing them between thumb and fingers as shown in the photo would offer leverage to the player which slides in the standard configuration do not. This would be akin to the force applied on a angled trumpet second valve slide by setting the horn down on that side, or putting music on top of the horn in the case. _________________ veery715
Hear me sing!: https://youtu.be/vtJ14MV64WY
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Adam R. Getzen Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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You can't really squeeze on the slides though because you would be actuating the trigger. The player's right hand carries the majority of the weight. _________________ Adam R. Getzen
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PW-Factor Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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I found my next flugel! Gorgeous!!! _________________ Ska/Reggae - The Selectones
New Orleans Funk - The Big Lagniappe
Raw Brass HB2 - Hammond PW
Gen II ACB Doubler Flugel - Curry 5FL |
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