Tuning Slide Survey

valvepimp · Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2003 3:03 pm Post subject:

I am curious how the TH members put their horns in their cases when not in use. Do you close the main tuning slide completely, or do you leave it in the last position you tuned it to? Any advantage to closing it over leaving it where it was? I usually leave mine where they were tuned to.
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_PhilPicc · Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2003 3:08 pm Post subject:

I leave mine where they are. No reason to close them.
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trumpetchops · Heavyweight Member Joined: 29 Jun 2003 Posts: 2645

I leave mine where they are. No reason to close them.

elbobogrande · Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2003 3:11 pm Post subject:

I leave it right where it is. I'm curious as to what made you ask this question.
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PatchesTheCat · Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2003 3:12 pm Post subject:

I close mine all the way. I don't want hair, dirt, excess junk from the case lining etc. to get on the grease and get in there. My Schilke has constant pitch center so the tuning slide is irrelevant anyway

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_swthiel · Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2003 3:12 pm Post subject:

Hey, my horn was tuned at the factory, why should I move the tuning slide now?

Seriously, I usually leave the slide where it is ... I play out in a relatively small number of venues, so there's a pretty good chance I'll be playing next with the keyboards I played with last and they're usually tuned pretty consistently from place to place. I clean the horn frequently enough that I don't worry about the slide getting "frozen" in place, which is the only reason I can think of to move the slide for any reason other than pitch adjustment or cleaning or leadpipe playing or ...

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valvepimp · Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2003 3:17 pm Post subject:

I asked it because one of my horns' tuning slide became frozen in its opened (tuned) position, and I was wondering if having left it closed for many years instead of open may have averted this. I have since freed it up and now keep it well-lubed. I am sure well-lubed is more important than open or closed.
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Lawler Bb · Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2003 3:25 pm Post subject:

Close the slide. Wouldn't do anything else. Keeps the slide from drying out, keeps junk off the slide, and grease out of the case.
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trumpetmike · Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 12:49 am Post subject:

At the end of a gig I am usually in such a rush that all the instruments tend to be left where they are.

Everything is cleaned, greased and oiled on a fairly regular basis so I'm not too worried about slides getting stuck.

If I am putting an instrument away for some time, I tend to remove the slides altogether, no chance of them getting stuck then.

The possible exception to the rule is the piccolo, where I try to work out whether I need it in A or Bb at the next gig. If it has the wrong leadpipe I will tend to change it over at the end of the previous gig. It is then inserted fully - it fits in my case a lot better when the leadpipe is fully inserted.

Arainach · Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 7:07 am Post subject:

It varies. Most of the time, I leave it where it last was. Especially on my Schilke, which has the first centimeter or so of the Slide Silver Plated, so I don't need to worry about Tarnish. On my Marching Horn (Yamaha Intermediate), I have to adjust the slide every time I pull it out (you never know what temperature you're playing in), so I try to remember to push it in all the way. Over time, you can tell where my slide is usually out to, since it gathers junk and corrosion and I take Brasso to it. When I put horns in Long-Term storage (Like my Marching Horn for 8 months of the year), I grease the slides up and put them in all the way.

DaveH · Heavyweight Member Joined: 20 Nov 2001 Posts: 3861

Generally, I push them in.

I guess I think it's good to keep them moving...

plankowner110 · Heavyweight Member Joined: 12 Jun 2003 Posts: 3623

Push the tuning slide all the way in after playing. If you always leave it in "tuning position," gunk will collect and dry in the gap over time, and when you eventually do push it in: Wa-la, your tuning slide is stuck! I have seen many students do this over the years.

Everyday is a new day when playing trumpet so precise tuning is going to vary. Save yourself a trip to the repair shop, push the tuning slide in after each session and flush your leadpipe and tuning slide often.
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doitallman · Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 9:24 am Post subject:

Not if you clean it at leasty once a month, like your supposed to.
Clean your horn and you can leave the slides anywhere you want.

OCTA-C · Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 9:53 am Post subject:

Usually push it back in after use. The primary reason for that is because I have reversed tuning slides so there is a greater area on the leadpipe exposed to get junk on it. I have two tuning slides for my Bach. One rounded and the other stock. One of my slides is always lubed and packed in a zip-lock baggy.
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NTlead · Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 2:17 pm Post subject:

I push my slide in, but for an unmentioned reason. With my tuning slide out the normal amount, the spit valve on the slide is up against one of my mouthpieces. I have some relatively nice mpces and don't want them scratched up by my tuning slide. And yeah, it's out a different amount every time, so what's the point?

mafields627 · Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 3:07 pm Post subject:

I always leave mine out; I don't want to be the one that forgets to pull it back out and hits the first warm up note in an ensemble and get all the stares from being a quarter-mile sharp.
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loudog · Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 3:09 pm Post subject:

I usually leave mine where they are, but I also take EXTREMELY good care of my horns, and they are cleaned often. Or I at least regrease slides and such. Most of the trombone players I know though push them in...but most trumpet players leave them out. Interesting.

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_dcstep · Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 6:00 pm Post subject:

In, out, in, out, whichever feels good.

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bophead · Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 4:56 am Post subject:

When I read the title of this thread, I thought we were going to discuss shape of tuning slides and the effects. Like many others, I leave my tuning slide where I last used it. I clean my horns on a weekly basis so everything works really well.
For what it is worth, I've added an oval tuning slide, without a brace to my Kanstul 1500. It makes an incredible difference in projection and breadth of my core sound. The horn had a pretty free blow prior to the change. Afterwards it has almost become slippery in the upper register. I have to concentrate a bit more on locking in notes in the upper register. Endurance has slipped in this configuration as well. There is less resistance - nothing to push against. Overall, it is not a bad addition.

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_dcstep · Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 7:21 am Post subject:

Earl, if the horn is a little too open with that rounded slide, you might try a mouthpiece with a slightly tighter backbore to get the ultimate balance between projection, endurance, range, etc. It's amazing what these little tiny changes can do.

Dave
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