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Tal Katz Heavyweight Member
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Thanks! _________________ Bach trumpet artist-clinician
Clinical Professor of Jazz Trumpet, University of Illinois
Professor Emeritus of Jazz Studies, Indiana University Jacobs School of Music
Faculty Jamey Aebersold Jazz Workshops 1976-2019
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gstump Heavyweight Member
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WOW _________________ Schilke B5
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Tal Katz Heavyweight Member
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WOW Indeed JL is great, isn't she? _________________ You are what you practice. |
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gstump Heavyweight Member
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Julie gives Caruso such validation. Overdue around here. _________________ Schilke B5
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Jerry Freedman Heavyweight Member
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gstump wrote: | Julie gives Caruso such validation. Overdue around here. |
Gotta wonder. Since Charly Raymond left this forum has been rather inactive. Why? |
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trumpetdiva1 Heavyweight Member
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Thanks for the clip! I loved Laurie so much and continue to do so.
It was inspiring. Great job, Julie!
Janell _________________ Janell Carter
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razeontherock Heavyweight Member
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Wow! While she's no Dave Sheetz, who (free) buzzes a double high C so effortlessly all I could do was laugh when I first saw him demonstrate it, Julie has not only an effortless buzz, but it sounds so ... efficient? Like no air is just passing through her lips, but every drop is converted into vibration. A very distinctive sound to it, well worth emulating. |
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Can anybody speak to what modifications or things we'd need to keep in mind as trumpet players, seeing as these are two horn players? |
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gstump Heavyweight Member
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I am thinking about adjusting the snakes and noodle studies. French Horn has an extend low range. I do not think these studies should go beyond low F# and into petals.
Other than that maybe a little more "play with abandon" regarding the interval studies. _________________ Schilke B5
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Tal Katz Heavyweight Member
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If you want all these exercises adjusted for trumpet you should buy Laurie Frink's Flexus book. It's all there and it's a wonderful book! Also comes with a CD with Laurie demonstrating the exercises. _________________ You are what you practice. |
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gstump Heavyweight Member
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I ordered Laurie's book. 47 years of doing MCFB. It is about time to try something else! _________________ Schilke B5
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gstump Heavyweight Member
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I am on day 3 of Flexus. At first blush I thought it looked pretty tame compared to Musical Calisthenics for Brass or my book. I was wrong. Following the instructions for each section results in a very taxing workout.
The flexibility exercises extend to high G. It is not pretty but is great fun: Click Here
Maybe an old dog can learn new tricks. So far, I really like this book. Time will tell. _________________ Schilke B5
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When doing the Lips - Mouthpiece - Horn exercise on trumpet. What pitches do you start at? |
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PH Bill Adam/Carmine Caruso Forum Moderator
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vialvest wrote: | When doing the Lips - Mouthpiece - Horn exercise on trumpet. What pitches do you start at? |
I'm sure this varied according to each student's needs. For me, he assigned Schlossberg page 2, #8, one line per lesson starting with the lower notes. After we did this, he had me do Schlossberg page 2, #7 in it's entirety for about a month.
After about 2 months of including this sort of work in my routine he told me that it had accomplished what he hoped it would and that I should remove it from my routine. He even said that if I continued to do it after that point it might have a negative impact on my playing. _________________ Bach trumpet artist-clinician
Clinical Professor of Jazz Trumpet, University of Illinois
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Faculty Jamey Aebersold Jazz Workshops 1976-2019
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PH wrote: | vialvest wrote: | When doing the Lips - Mouthpiece - Horn exercise on trumpet. What pitches do you start at? |
I'm sure this varied according to each student's needs. For me, he assigned Schlossberg page 2, #8, one line per lesson starting with the lower notes. After we did this, he had me do Schlossberg page 2, #7 in it's entirety for about a month.
After about 2 months of including this sort of work in my routine he told me that it had accomplished what he hoped it would and that I should remove it from my routine. He even said that if I continued to do it after that point it might have a negative impact on my playing. |
Thanks for the detailed reply!
In both MCFB and Flexus there isn't any lip or mouthpiece buzzing exercises. Was it uncommon that Caruso assigned these? |
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PH Bill Adam/Carmine Caruso Forum Moderator
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vialvest wrote: | PH wrote: | vialvest wrote: | When doing the Lips - Mouthpiece - Horn exercise on trumpet. What pitches do you start at? |
I'm sure this varied according to each student's needs. For me, he assigned Schlossberg page 2, #8, one line per lesson starting with the lower notes. After we did this, he had me do Schlossberg page 2, #7 in it's entirety for about a month.
After about 2 months of including this sort of work in my routine he told me that it had accomplished what he hoped it would and that I should remove it from my routine. He even said that if I continued to do it after that point it might have a negative impact on my playing. |
Thanks for the detailed reply!
In both MCFB and Flexus there isn't any lip or mouthpiece buzzing exercises. Was it uncommon that Caruso assigned these? |
I got the impression that buzzing was something he didn't do with everyone. At that time I was pretty much a basket case, so I think his prescription for me was remedial/therapeutic. _________________ Bach trumpet artist-clinician
Clinical Professor of Jazz Trumpet, University of Illinois
Professor Emeritus of Jazz Studies, Indiana University Jacobs School of Music
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pepperdean Heavyweight Member
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My experience with lip-buzz-mouthpiece is similar to Pat's and dates back to around 1971. Schlossberg #7. As I remember, I was to lip-buzz-play chromatically from one written note to the next. In the "play" phase, I was not allowed to change valves but had to attempt the chromatic changes with just my lips.
That sounds pretty scary to me now. I might just revisit those exercises.
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pepperdean Heavyweight Member
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Another thing occured to me. Carmine advised always doing the buzz on fresh lips.
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gstump Heavyweight Member
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Mr. Caruso never asked to free buzz or buzz on the mouthpiece. I did buzz the interval studies in the car once while traveling out of town.
Never again!! Not good!! Blew out my aperture!!!! _________________ Schilke B5
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