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NTlead Heavyweight Member
Joined: 22 Nov 2003 Posts: 1136 Location: Philadelphia
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Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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Has anyone seen or played on one of these things? List price on it is over $300!!!!
Seems absurd, but maybe the solid silver actually helps in some way. If not, sure seems like the biggest waste of money ever. |
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UsedBits Heavyweight Member
Joined: 13 Nov 2001 Posts: 851 Location: Arkansas
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Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 6:13 am Post subject: |
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Not only would it be a waste of money, I doubt that it is solid silver. Certainly not pure silver.
Weigh your mouthpiece (in ounces) and multiply that by the spot price of silver (about $5/oz?) to give you an idea of the cost of the raw metal required for such a mouthpiece. _________________ aka Benge Loyalist
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oneeyedhobbit Veteran Member
Joined: 22 Mar 2003 Posts: 464 Location: Minneapolis
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Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 8:43 am Post subject: |
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That is entirely possibly. 16oz in a pound, no doubt a mouthpiece weighs much less than a pound. More than enough material there. Factor in craftsmanship and overhead for the rest of the price. |
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Arainach Heavyweight Member
Joined: 03 Oct 2002 Posts: 878 Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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The Yamaha mouthpieces ARE solid Sterling Silver. And Silver is much heavier than brass. Basically, this mouthpiece is a huge extension of the megatone idea - probably the heaviest mouthpieces made. I don't believe in the Megatone mouthpieces, so I'd say that they're a waste of money. Has anyone ever actually bought one, or are they just available as custom options? |
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_dcstep Heavyweight Member
Joined: 05 Jul 2003 Posts: 6324 Location: Denver
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Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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John Faddis has a sterling silver mouthpiece. I think Schilke makes it for him, but it's a large blank, like bigger than a MegaTone.
He uses a light weight, tight bore horn with a high mass mouthpiece.
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UsedBits Heavyweight Member
Joined: 13 Nov 2001 Posts: 851 Location: Arkansas
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Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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Is Sterling Silver also 'pure' silver? What makes it Sterling? _________________ aka Benge Loyalist
Benge Bb, 5x, ml #8162
Benge C, 2x+, mlp #7481
Benge D/Eb, ml #6579
Benge Flug, ml #17xxx
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Boston 3-Star 1 NE Plus Ultra LP #22019
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plankowner110 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 12 Jun 2003 Posts: 3620
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Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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Found this info about sterling silver on a jewelry website:
Fine silver, which is at its natural state, is 999/1000 pure. That kind of purity makes it too soft for molding into everyday products. In order for silver to be hard enough and suitable for arts and crafts, alloying with other metallic components is a must.
Sterling silver is a mixture of 92.5% pure fine silver and other metal alloys. It is the most popular concentration found in silvery items, and a marking of "925" can be visibly noted engraved onto either the backside or the inside of each piece. It is the most ideal percentage for having enough durability without loosing much of the natural bright sheen. _________________ C. G. Conn 60B Super Connstellation
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_Japle Heavyweight Member
Joined: 17 Nov 2001 Posts: 1110 Location: Viera, Florida
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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 7:04 am Post subject: |
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About 8 years ago, Ron Romm said he was having his MP rims cut out of solid silver. He said it improved the tone and improved slotting. That was just the rim, though, not the whole MP. _________________ John
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jamie Regular Member
Joined: 25 Sep 2003 Posts: 77
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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i tryed out one of these mouth pieces, i tryed the 14a4a and at the time i also tryed out the 13a4a from the standrd series i like the14a4a better but i don't think it was for the silver i just like a wider piece but because of the price over $300 i got the 13a4a that was $40 |
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brad333 Veteran Member
Joined: 07 May 2003 Posts: 366 Location: Toronto
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Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2003 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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I played a Yamaha 14a4a for a long time and then got an identical GP model. I felt that sound and response were nearly identical. There very changes but they were very subtle, certianly nothing a listener would notice. I've also played the silver model of the 14a4a. I couldn't tell any difference while I was in the store(didn't have my own piece with me to compare it with). It probably wasn't any different except in the most subtle of ways. I doubt you'd be able to justify the price even if you could tell the difference. |
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