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KF Veteran Member
Joined: 19 Jul 2004 Posts: 170 Location: Durham, NC
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 1:46 pm Post subject: Lip slurs for students |
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I'm looking for a lip slur book to use with my private students. Any suggestions out there?
For my middle school students I've created some Schlossberg-like sheets of slurs that I print out for them, and for older students I have them buy Schlossberg.
I'd really like to find one book that can last a 7th or 8th grade student through most of high school, giving them a nice variety of material to work with. I'm tired of using Schlossberg to be honest, and for the cost ($20), it's a little more than I want make students spend for what they're getting. Yes, Schlossberg is great and I play those studies every day, but for most of my younger students' needs it's not quite right.
And I'd much prefer an actual book, as opposed to e-books, pdfs, etc. I hate having kids bring in crumpled sheets of paper... they need real books.
Thanks for your recommendations friends! |
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dstdenis Heavyweight Member
Joined: 25 May 2013 Posts: 2123 Location: Atlanta GA
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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Bai Lin Lip Flexibilities _________________ Bb Yamaha Xeno 8335IIS
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John Mohan Heavyweight Member
Joined: 13 Nov 2001 Posts: 9830 Location: Chicago, Illinois
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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Bai Lin is a great book, but it's way too advanced for middle school / high school aged players with few exceptions.
An excellent book for starting students on Flexibility type exercises is "Fundamental Flexibilities" by Matthew Graves. Available here:
https://www.purtle.com/matt-graves-fundamental-flexibility-studies
More advanced players should be started with either "Twenty-Seven Groups of Exercises" by Earl D. Irons, or perhaps "Lip Flexibilities" by Charles Colin. Another good medium level book is Lip Flexibility On The Trumpet" by Walter Smith.
The more advanced books include Schlossberg and the aforementioned Bai Lin book.
Best wishes,
John Mohan |
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RandyTX Heavyweight Member
Joined: 25 Mar 2010 Posts: 5299 Location: Central Texas
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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Another "beginner" level lip slurs book that I have from back in Jr. High is "Embouchure Builder" by Lowell Little. It has the advantage of still being cheap to purchase today. It's $6.99 at sheet music plus, just checked.
Of course, most any lip slur book (or even Arban's) will do, provided you work on the ones appropriate for the playing level at the time, instead of beating your face in working on the harder ones at the back of the book before you are ready for them. _________________ "Music is like candy, you throw the (w)rappers away." |
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cheiden Heavyweight Member
Joined: 28 Sep 2004 Posts: 8914 Location: Orange County, CA
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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I like Bai Lin lots but agree that much of it might be too advanced.
I seem to recall really enjoying the Vizzutti books and thinking that many of the flexibility exercises were reasonably accessible and entertaining. _________________ "I'm an engineer, which means I think I know a whole bunch of stuff I really don't."
Charles J Heiden/So Cal
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KF Veteran Member
Joined: 19 Jul 2004 Posts: 170 Location: Durham, NC
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you for suggesting the Matt Graves book, John. Do you know if it's available in a print edition? I'm only seeing a download version so far. |
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Andy Del Heavyweight Member
Joined: 30 Jun 2005 Posts: 2665 Location: sunny Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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You can also have a look at 'how trumpet players do it' by John Ridgeon.
Starts very easy and processes incrementally, plus some not too outrageous commentary at the start. The images may not be to everyone's taste...
Cheers
Andy _________________ so many horns, so few good notes... |
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Bluesy Veteran Member
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Dayton Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Mar 2013 Posts: 2044 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 2:03 am Post subject: |
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James Ackley's "A Systematic Approach to Flexibility" is terrific, with plenty of exercises within the range of a middle schooler. Scott Belck's "Modern Flexibilities" offers more challenging flexibility patterns, but most of them are only written up to G, so it might also be worth considering. |
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Bill Dishman Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 4:42 am Post subject: Lip Slurs/Flexibility |
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I put together a comprehensive routine for my private students that includes flexibility exercises that are progressive in nature.
Easily used for middle age groups to advanced.
I can send it to you if you wish.
Bill Dishman
Gainesville, Florida |
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TrumpetDan79 Veteran Member
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Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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+1 on Irons. The first 7 studies. |
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starkadder Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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I second Belk. I like them because they are fun and musically interesting.
Collins is also to be recommended. |
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Trombacan Veteran Member
Joined: 30 Nov 2009 Posts: 102 Location: Canada
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Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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Little's Embouchure Builder to start and follow up with Bai Lin and Irons _________________ "It's simple, it just isn't easy" - VC |
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George Chase Regular Member
Joined: 14 Jan 2011 Posts: 27 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 8:47 am Post subject: |
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Trombacan wrote: | Little's Embouchure Builder to start and follow up with Bai Lin and Irons |
Good advice!
(Also good to have the kids repeat all the exercises K tongued and single tongued!) |
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homecookin Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:05 am Post subject: |
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RandyTX wrote: | Another "beginner" level lip slurs book that I have from back in Jr. High is "Embouchure Builder" by Lowell Little. It has the advantage of still being cheap to purchase today. It's $6.99 at sheet music plus, just checked.
Of course, most any lip slur book (or even Arban's) will do, provided you work on the ones appropriate for the playing level at the time, instead of beating your face in working on the harder ones at the back of the book before you are ready for them. |
I agree with RandyTX about the book Embouchure Builder by Lowell Little, especially for junior high students, the Earl Irons 27 groups is a great book for high school players.
One other thing, as RandyTX indicated the current price of the book Embouchure
Builder is $6.99. When I purchased my first copy(which I still have, BTW)
in the fall of 1969 the price of the book was $0.75, yep, seventy five cents.
...Oh Well...LOL |
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cheiden Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:25 am Post subject: |
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Vizzutti offers some accessible and entertaining flexibility work in his books. _________________ "I'm an engineer, which means I think I know a whole bunch of stuff I really don't."
Charles J Heiden/So Cal
Bach Strad 180ML43*/43 Bb/Yamaha 731 Flugel/Benge 1X C/Kanstul 920 Picc/Conn 80A Cornet
Bach 3C rim on 1.5C underpart |
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Fox56 Regular Member
Joined: 22 Jun 2020 Posts: 17
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 6:27 am Post subject: |
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Is the download of Matt Graves' Fundamental Flexibility Studies not availbale anymore? |
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Dayton Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Mar 2013 Posts: 2044 Location: USA
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:39 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | Is the download of Matt Graves' Fundamental Flexibility Studies not availbale anymore? |
Good book. Jeff Purtle used to sell it from his site. Anyone interested in it could try contacting him or Matt Graves directly. |
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Posts: 9031 Location: Hawai`i - Texas
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 6:21 am Post subject: |
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To me, Embouchure Builder by Lowell Little is a good prelude to Irons. I would definitely start with it. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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Fox56 Regular Member
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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:31 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the info and yes I have just started using embouchure builder and it is good |
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