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SABRASSO New Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 11:23 pm Post subject: Unusual cornets |
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I have an old cornet that I was given by an elderly American friend some years ago. It was made by Beuscher, but to a design by a guy called David Hamblen. It has compensating valves and, according to my repairer, is beautifully made. Anyone else heard of anything like this, or got any unusual instruments?[/img] |
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GordonH Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:59 am Post subject: |
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Besson made compensating cornets. They sell for quite large amounts these days. _________________ Bb - Scherzer 8218W, Schilke S22, Bach 43, Selmer 19A Balanced
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scottfsmith Veteran Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:53 am Post subject: |
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Boosey probably made more of them than anyone, but the compensating system never seems to have caught on. Buescher didn't make an official compensating model that I know of, so yours could be a custom or a prototype that never got repeated.
I have a Meredith "open tone" cornet which is another unusual system - even when valves are up the air goes through a curved tube (out and back into the same valve). It makes the resistance more uniform across the fingerings. Unfortunately it makes an instrument I would called "closed tone", there is too much resistance. But its interesting to play and you definitely do appreciate the consistent resistance which gives a more uniform tone across fingerings. |
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VetPsychWars Heavyweight Member
Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 7196 Location: Greenfield WI
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:57 am Post subject: Re: Unusual cornets |
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SABRASSO wrote: | I have an old cornet that I was given by an elderly American friend some years ago. It was made by Beuscher, but to a design by a guy called David Hamblen. It has compensating valves and, according to my repairer, is beautifully made. Anyone else heard of anything like this, or got any unusual instruments?[/img] |
I would guess you're referring to the Buescher Epoch cornet?
http://metzlerbrass.com/resources/Epoch+ad.jpg
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SABRASSO New Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 2:11 am Post subject: |
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This is interesting but the one I have has several slides on each valve and a complex system of airways. I'll try to post a picture. |
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jrpbrass Veteran Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:27 am Post subject: Hamblen design |
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I know this is an old post but I just read up on David Hamblen and his patent #1,222,285 from 1917. Perhaps Buescher built a prototype for him? I would love to see photos of it. Probably a true compensating design quite different from the Epoch. _________________ BrassHistory.net
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DonaldsTrumpets New Member
Joined: 26 Apr 2021 Posts: 5 Location: IL
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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:34 am Post subject: So many horns, so little time |
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Hey All,
I don't even know where to begin.
My Dad left me an UNBELIEVABLE collection of working horns (trumpets and cornets...handful of sax).
There is wear on quite a few (as expected), but everyone that I have had come over is amazed with the valves and playability.
Strads, Committees, Naked Ladys, Selmers, Olds Records...lot of other olds, Bessons, Boston Music, gazillion Conns....on and on and on and on.
The cool thing is that I have finally started playing trumpet (ironically after my Dad's passing...) and I am loving it! I have more options that anyone in the US, but I was drawn to an LA Olds Ambassador. It has beautiful red/browning, and plays amazing (valves, comperession, etc).
Anyone have an idea where I even begin? I'm thinking one at a time.
It will take years to get to zero. _________________ Dad...what were you thinking with all of these vintage horns? |
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