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monroegv New Member
Joined: 26 Jan 2016 Posts: 2
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 7:59 am Post subject: Kanstul 725 flugelhorn vs Getzen Eterna flugelhorn |
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I need a little help in selecting a Flugelhorn. Ive been playing the trumpet and cornet for a few years, and I'm interested in picking up a flugelhorn. I mainly play Jazz and funk. These are two horns I have and opportunity to purchase. Any info from owners or former players of these horns would be greatly appreciated. Thanks |
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cheiden Heavyweight Member
Joined: 28 Sep 2004 Posts: 8939 Location: Orange County, CA
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 9:21 am Post subject: |
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I generally liked all the Kanstuls I've played. But the horn you mention is the student model with horizontal slides and probably not the best choice. I've only played a one Getzen that played and sounded the way I like, the rest didn't work for me. I currently own a Getzen Eterna that's on permanent loan to a friend because I prefer the Yamaha horns. _________________ "I'm an engineer, which means I think I know a whole bunch of stuff I really don't."
Charles J Heiden/So Cal
Bach Strad 180ML43*/43 Bb/Yamaha 731 Flugel/Benge 1X C/Kanstul 920 Picc/Conn 80A Cornet
Bach 3C rim on 1.5C underpart |
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Don Herman rev2 'Chicago School' Forum Moderator
Joined: 03 May 2005 Posts: 8975 Location: Monument, CO
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 11:56 am Post subject: |
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OP -- Did you mean the Kanstul 925? _________________ "After silence, that which best expresses the inexpressible, is music" - Aldous Huxley |
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cheiden Heavyweight Member
Joined: 28 Sep 2004 Posts: 8939 Location: Orange County, CA
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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Don Herman rev2 wrote: | OP -- Did you mean the Kanstul 925? |
http://kanstul.com/category.php?category_search=Flugelhorn&metaPage=Flugelhorn
If it was indeed the 925 then I'd certainly favor that one. _________________ "I'm an engineer, which means I think I know a whole bunch of stuff I really don't."
Charles J Heiden/So Cal
Bach Strad 180ML43*/43 Bb/Yamaha 731 Flugel/Benge 1X C/Kanstul 920 Picc/Conn 80A Cornet
Bach 3C rim on 1.5C underpart |
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monroegv New Member
Joined: 26 Jan 2016 Posts: 2
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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No its the 725, its listed on their website as an intermediate model. |
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trUMBet67 Veteran Member
Joined: 08 Sep 2003 Posts: 222 Location: Italia
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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 2:49 am Post subject: |
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I'm happy with my Getzen Eterna, specially about the sound. Not so much about intonation, but this could also be a matter of which mouthpiece you play. I play on a Wick 2F and intonation problems can be solved quite easily lipping up or down, anyway.
Much of flugel playing of Freddie Hubbard was on a Getzen Eterna flugel. _________________ Umberto -
Bb: Taylor Chicago II Lite,Conn 38B,Olds Super,Olds Recording,Conn 22B (3),Bach 180 37 modified
C: SLB Callet New York
Flugel: Getzen Eterna 895S-T
Cornet: Getzen Eterna 800 LB Copper,Conn 28A,B&H Imperial
Piccolo: Schilke Herald Bb/A |
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david mickley Heavyweight Member
Joined: 27 May 2009 Posts: 712 Location: Indianapolis, In.
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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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play both and choose the one that works best for you, if possible use the same mouth piece on both horns to eliminate that variable. I have owned a Getzen Eterna and a Benge 5 flugel, both pro models and now own a Yamaha 231 student flugel and to be honest the student Yamaha works best for me. You need to play what works for you and not what works best for someone else. Good luck and have fun. _________________ Chicago Benge 33XX
Burbank Benge 5X 59XX
Yamaha Flugel 231
assorted other horns |
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shofarguy Heavyweight Member
Joined: 18 Sep 2007 Posts: 7016 Location: AZ
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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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The reason all Kanstul flugelhorn models play well and in tune is because sometime between the design of the Benge flugels and the 1525 Byron Autrey worked out the formula for the bell branch dimensions so that the horn (any flugelhorn) would be in tune reliably.
Zig and Byron collaborated on many projects over the years. Those two have given the brass world SO much, we may never know the extent.
BTW, Byron has worked closely with Getzen as well. _________________ Brian A. Douglas
Flip Oakes Wild Thing Bb Trumpet in copper
Flip Oakes Wild Thing Flugelhorn in copper
There is one reason that I practice: to be ready at the downbeat when the final trumpet sounds. |
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Adam R. Getzen Heavyweight Member
Joined: 04 Apr 2013 Posts: 654 Location: Elkhorn, WI.
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 7:56 am Post subject: |
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shofarguy wrote: |
BTW, Byron has worked closely with Getzen as well. |
It's probably been about ten years since we saw Byron last. One of the last "old school" guys that put so much work in for the industry. _________________ Adam R. Getzen
Vice President & Co-Owner
Getzen Company |
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