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ARB
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drunkiq
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these usually go for around $1700 new - it is a pocket cornet, it is suppose to be more like a cornet and stand out from the toy's...
give me a real cornet..
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Tim80
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The following is from teh Schilke Loyalist's "Trumpet Gearhead" site.
The most intriguing horn (and my favorite at least in a Platonic way), buried in the Holton catalog, is the Holton C150 pocket cornet (nice pictures of an older model are here), at seven inches in length, is the most expensive small brass instrument Holton offers. It is available in very limited qualities at a price (around $1700) equal to or more than the Benge and Kanstul. It is way cool. Take a look at the weird wrap. It is the shortest pocket available, I believe. I haven't played one but i understand that they play very well.
http://www.dallasmusic.org/gearhead/Pocket%20trumpets.html
I'm with Marc though. You get get a couple of real nice Boston 3 Star cornets for the price of one of those little Holtons.
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atom_anderson
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| I just noticed that the 1st valve is marked with a 3 and the 3rd valve is marked with a 1. What do you suppose that means? |
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jophst
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That is an interesting valve cluster. Maybe you have to play everything backwards now .... A is 2&3 and G# is 1&2.
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Tim80
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It means if you'd spend that much on a pocket you've got your head screwed on backwards!  j/j
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jophst
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Tim said it a little better .... I agree with him! I've yet to spend that on any horn!!!!
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_PhilPicc
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| Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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I have a pocket trumpet that is not as tightly wrapped as that and it took me some time to find a way of holding it.
My question is how do you hold this one, in a mitten?
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boofredlay
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The reason the valves are numbered in such a manner is because the bell is acutually the mouthpiece. Thus producing a much desired high range depending on which "mouthpiece" you place in the bell reciever.
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Martin
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On 2004-01-13 21:42, atom_anderson wrote:
I just noticed that the 1st valve is marked with a 3 and the 3rd valve is marked with a 1. What do you suppose that means?
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They just put on a regular off-the-shelf valve cluster backwards - because of the tuning slide, there´s no room for the 2nd valve slide on the right side of the horn. The same is usually done with left-handed trumpets - the "real" ones at least where bell and leadpipe are switched.
Not as funny as the previous explanations, but probably correct. 
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I have one of those little puppies. The valve block looks like it came from a flugelhorn, installed backwards, since all the valve tubing emerges on the left side of the valves -- which would explain the 3, 2, 1 numbering scheme.
To hold it, I stick my left index finger into the middle of the wrap, next to the second valve slide. My thumb wraps around the bottom of the first valve. My remaining three fingers wrap around the front of the wrap, my middle finger frequently resting on the rim of the bell.
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| The seller is Lee, the head of the brass dept. at Rayburns in Boston. The guy who has a Monet mp designed for him... |
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