Conn Vintage One, Kanstul, etc.

Levermann · Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2004 7:47 am Post subject:

The easiest way of finding a trumpet is : try them and do not care for the name.
I did not choose my wife because of her name.( I don´t know if choose is the right word in this context.)
And I play a Getzen now although I HATED Getzen ten long years.

plankowner110 · Heavyweight Member Joined: 12 Jun 2003 Posts: 3620

I like Levermann's analogy about choosing a wife. You'll have to live with the trumpet you select for a long time, so choose wisely! The one that has the "features" you like and gives you that extra special feeling when you hold it and place it to your lips--- In short, you'll know when you have the horn that's right for you!
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oneeyedhobbit · Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2004 12:12 pm Post subject:

Are you still playing your V1 Plankowner?

plankowner110 · Heavyweight Member Joined: 12 Jun 2003 Posts: 3620

My son has it. The Vintage One is an incredibly versatile trumpet, or I should say trumpet line with all the choices in bells, leadpipes, tuning slides, weighted caps, etc. Conn will have a V1 cornet available in about one year after final testing by top UK cornetists.

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Martin · Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2004 9:34 pm Post subject:

oneeyedhobbit · Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2004 11:11 pm Post subject:

Ok, I was just curious-I saw you had listed the King Silver Flair in your sig, and I wondered if you had switched to that...I didn't think the modern one was quite on the same level as the V1, and was wondering what spurred your choice. What are you playing now?

HorneyMikey · Veteran Member Joined: 18 Jun 2003 Posts: 325

Regarding selling wives on Ebay:

I believe there is an EBay site for that purpose:

www.ebay/iraq.com

(I know, very poor taste, but what the hey......)

Mike

MaynardProdigy · Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2004 12:33 pm Post subject:

I love my wife and only my Strad even compares to her. Also my King, Holton, and Yamaha...
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gmonteith · Veteran Member Joined: 05 Dec 2002 Posts: 104

I tried a V1 a couple of years ago when the local music store had its annual "sale" for students, they day they bring in all the UMI horns. I didn't like it at all. As someone else noted, it was very stuffy. Then, on a visit to Bloomington, Indiana, I walked into a music store and tried three that they had. Every one of them blew me away. They were open, in tune and easy to play. After playing a dozen other horns before the V1, I was impressed. I can't tell you what the difference was, because the guy on duty at this particular store was "not a brass specialist." All I would say, is don't give up on the V1. If I had to buy a new horn today, that's what I would buy (but I'd try several first!)

oneeyedhobbit · Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 9:40 pm Post subject:

Where on earth is everybody getting this Vintage One inconsistency bit from? I obviously don't mean to insult anyone's integrity or call someone a liar, but when I tested three, they all performed similarly, with only the forgivable differences. They're not, after all, Yamahas. With the standard leadpipe I don't find the V1 stuffy at all, and it can be further opened with the rounded slide if one desires. Perhaps it was the early run of V1s or something??

Levermann · Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 9:50 pm Post subject:

What do you expect from UMI ?
I tested three with two other trumpet players.
One was BAD, one was okay and one was very sweet.
I do not think the special feature did that difference but inconsistency.
I also know of big inconsistency with Yamaha when I selected two Zs from 12.

Trptbenge · Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 3:05 am Post subject:

There is going to be some inconsistency from every horn manufacture with Yamaha probably having less then most. While I have not been blown away by the V1 I haven't found them to be really inconsistent. I also I think it is an mistake to lump their quality in with the traditional UMI problems. Fred Powell, a professional player, who developed the V1 and keeps tabs on the manufacturing process is very demanding about quality. As far as the whole company goes I would worry a little over Bach quality over the next few months. They are closing a factory in Elkhart due to labor problems. Not a good thing.

Mike

_dcstep · Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 4:18 am Post subject:

UMI is gone.
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gmonteith · Veteran Member Joined: 05 Dec 2002 Posts: 104

I think the inconsistency in my case was the way the horn was set up. Unfortunately, I didn't know enough to ask the first time, and the second time the sales rep wasn't well versed on the horn. I've seen nothing to indicate that the quality itself is inconsistent.

oneeyedhobbit · Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 8:12 pm Post subject:

Thank you for your responce, gmonteith. I just don't like the idea of bad rumors getting out on something that hasn't been overly observed...also, Leverman, as has been stated, Fred Powell is a Q.C. animal, that UMI bit doesn't hold any weight....especially considering UMI is dead.

Thats unfortunate for the Bach plant, I had assumed now that Conn-Selmer were together, we were in store for great things. Fred Powell/Bach Strad plans combination? All the great qualities of the V1 and Bach? I was hoping...that, and I had heard Bachs QC had been fixed. Hope it stays that way.

gregplo · Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 4:21 pm Post subject:

Greetings everyone. Life has been very busy these days, so I scan the threads now and again, but haven't had much time to post. I saw Ed mention my name in this thread, so I thought it was time to surface once again, if only briefly. I hope you all are doing well!

I am still playing my 1BR-GP, and it is still a great horn! The quality of the horn is excellent, the Gold Plating has held up extremely well, and the valves have worked in nicely (I am using the Zaja scented oil...it works well for me). I am still playing all kinds of music from Brass Quintet to Orchestral to Big Band, and it seems to fit well in every venue. Frankly, I've got no complaints with the quality or workmanship of the horn. It is a relatively heavy horn, so be prepared for that. I have had a couple of Kanstul made horns in the past, and their quality was no better (or worse) than the V1. The Conn arm of Conn-Selmer is putting out some very good horns these days. I just recently acquired a King 2070-C trumpet (I was a little hesitant to order it, but the price was right), and it plays very well and is well made too. No regrets on either horn.

I keep pulling out my old LA Benge 2X MLP, and even with the .464 bore, it feels tight compared to the V1. The Benge feels very much like most of the Bach 37s I've played, while the Conn is not quite as open as the Mambo or Wild Thing (which is a good thing for me), but is noticably more open then the Benge. In the next week or so I'm going to get an opportunity to try out a Stomvi Master Bb...I'll try to let you know how that works out.

Just FYI...I recently aquired a Marcikiewicz 5S (symphony backbore) to compliment the M5 I was already playing. I get a bigger, fuller sound than ever. I'm using the 5S for the Orchestral and Quintet music. I still use the 5 for Big Band because I get a little more edge with the 5.

Blessings to all!
Greg Plough