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tomba51 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not sure that I do this properly. I do feel like I'm spitting a seed off the tip of my tongue, just like the instructions say. I am definately tonguing through the teeth, but I don't feel the tongue striking the top lip. Am I close enough to the proper technique so that I'm doing myself some good, or do I need to make more of an effort to actually strike the top lip? Thanks in advance.
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Lex Grantham Veteran Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, tongue the top lip.
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Trptbenge Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2004 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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I have justed started on BE but I wished I had done so much earlier. The more I tongue the lip the easier it becomes. Sometimes it feels as if I either don't quite hit the lip or do so lightly and can hardly tell. I am not looking for a screaming high range (not that I would reject it if it happened). I am looking for a strong range up to G above high C - especially in the bothersome area of A, B, C & D.
I was working on the third movement of the Haydn tonight and have never felt stronger above the staff.
Mike
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Lex Grantham Veteran Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 6:59 am Post subject: |
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Mike:
It is also very possible that as time goes by, you will feel stronger and stronger as each week passes. It is a great feeling to be confident in one's trumpet playing.
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Bruce Lee Heavyweight Member
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tomba51
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Joined: Nov 25, 2001
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From: Long Island, NY
Posted: 2004-01-20 15:46
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I'm not sure that I do this properly. I do feel like I'm spitting a seed off the tip of my tongue, just like the instructions say. I am definately tonguing through the teeth, but I don't feel the tongue striking the top lip. Am I close enough to the proper technique so that I'm doing myself some good, or do I need to make more of an effort to actually strike the top lip? Thanks in advance.
Tom
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Hi, Tom!
Yes, on page 17 of the BE book, Jeff address this issue. He states: Quote: | What I eventually discovered was, it's not "doyou tongue on your lips?' but, "can you tongue on your lips?" Simply being able to do it is enough to trigger a generally positive change. In other words, it's a means to an end rather than an end unto itself. |
Most importantly, on page 18, Jeff makes this statement: Quote: | But it has a value beyond simple articulation. Tonguing on the lips helps you feel your lips within the mouthpiece. As a side benefit, it also keeps the teeth the proper distance apart. |
The key is there. Jeff's belief is that the tongue will find out where to go on its own. Page 16, in the BE book describes the tongue's role: Quote: | The tongue is a "secondary air valve. Lips, which can squeeze the air into a much tighter stream (when flexed correctly0, are the primary air valve. | Balance is the goal!
We all find different points to grasp, in order to achieve understanding. This is one of the major points in the book that works for me. I hope that it may be helpful for everyone!
Best always,
Bruce
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pair of kings Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2004 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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The time that the tongue is in a closed (striking) position is relativlely short in the course of normal articulation and it is possible, I think, for the tongue to be contacting the lip without you realizing it.
Unfortunately I can't reference BE since I gave it back to my friend but as I recall and as I understood the zip tonguing exercise, should be helpful in finding the right place to articulate. |
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Lex Grantham Veteran Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 7:17 am Post subject: |
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I have had great luck with doing the roll-out exercises and making sure that the upper lip is down to where I feel it with the tongue for articulating. It certainly helps to improve the general playing of music.
Sincerely,
Lex Grantham |
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