Ambassador

Ash · Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 10:00 am Post subject:

This one's different, I guess.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3701345184&category=41396
Does anybody know where you can get this kind of lacquer job done?
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mulligan stew · Heavyweight Member Joined: 02 Jul 2003 Posts: 1846

Why would you do that to an Olds?

But I'm guessing the shop that's selling it would do that kind of work for you...

supportlivejazz · Heavyweight Member Joined: 05 Jan 2003 Posts: 3757

Not positive but I believe that Barodi does all his work. kpb
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_Happy Canuck · Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 11:43 am Post subject:

Yes, Malcolm (Alaskapro) has his horns overhauled and lacquered at Borodi Music in Cleveland http://www.borodimusic.com

Actually, the 'colored' Ambassadors that Alaskapro sells are all great horns, and make a real impact for Christmas or with kids at a concert! And remember, music is FUN!
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bgwbold · Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 12:00 pm Post subject:

Alaska Brass has been around on eBay selling these treatments for several years. Different strokes for different folks, I guess.

Mike

jazzartizt1742 · Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 6:46 pm Post subject:

makes me wanna cry.. or throw up.

bgwbold · Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 7:27 pm Post subject:

Fortunately, there are still a lot of Olds to go around, but I feel the same way.

Mike

MoonBoy · Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 8:41 pm Post subject:

Why would you get physically ill from looking at a trumpet that YOU don't like? I don't understand the animosity against "non-traditional" colored trumpets, if you have a car it's probably not lacquered bare metal or silver/gold plated (although a silver plated car would look REALLY cool and be an extreme driving hazard!). If you own a Mac these days it's likely to be a "non-beige" color, and just about every major manufacturer is embracing that people WANT things to look different than the "old" way. Most people want to individualize to set themselves apart from the crowd, the trumpet world seems hell-bent on standardizing the sound & look of trumpets (i.e. "the Bach sound"). See how much hell people get for liking a Harrelson modified trumpet, or although I wasn't privy to any conversations per se Monettes probably got some hell for looking the way they do. People who look down at those who try to be different are nothing but close minded anti-change sheep. That Olds is a really nice looking horn IMHO, the technologies to do interesting things like this without affecting the sound too much is a fantastic revolution from the days of "So what shiney surface do you want, Yellow, Silver, or Gold?" Be glad that things change and accept that the ways things used to look will constantly evolve and when you say "I'm going to be sick" you might as well start telling the damn kids to keep of your grass, grandpa!
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bgwbold · Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 2:35 am Post subject:

Well, I can't answer for the other guy, but I am just traditional and think Olds horns look fine the way they are. It is not a big thing with me, but the Ambassador and the other Olds they modify are probably one of the best horns ever made. I am used to mostly seeing old horns in their natural state so they don't look ugly to me with a fine matte finish that comes with age and no lacquer.

I don't really have a problem with someone doing what they want to with their own horns. Someone recently posted beautiful photos of an Ambassador with a few modifications including one of the nicest brushed lacquer jobs I have ever seen. I have a Studio model Olds in black lacquer. I just do not like the engraving and silver/gold plating treatments, but if someone else does, more power to them as long as they realize that they are paying $500 or so for what is basically a $100 Ambassador. Other than that, who cares? It all boils down to personal preference, anyway. You thinking of getting one of these?

Mike

djm6701 · Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 3:49 am Post subject:

bg, I'd love to see a pic of your Studio in black lacquer (seriously; I'm not looking to make fun of it, it sounds really sharp looking). Can you post one here?
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jazzartizt1742 · Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 4:47 am Post subject:

I was being sarcastic! i just like the raw brass effect, and if you need to set yourself apart from others by having a flashy horn...well you should set yourself apart by how u play. also i like all the new horns with the cool stuff on them it's just that it was a nice Olds Trumpet...sorry if i offended n e one.

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bgwbold · Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 6:17 am Post subject:

you wrote:
bg, I'd love to see a pic of your Studio in black lacquer (seriously; I'm not looking to make fun of it, it sounds really sharp looking). Can you post one here?
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I will try to figure out how to do it and will post it here if I can. It was a very nice little horn to start with and the lacquer, actually opaque black car paint, does not seem to take away from the sound at all. It's a great conversation piece on the band stand. Accents are in gold.

Mike

added: djm, check your PMs.

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