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How to get that "lub-lub-lub" articulation effect



 
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toddbaer
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:04 pm    Post subject: How to get that "lub-lub-lub" articulation effect Reply with quote

I've heard this effect before but could never figure out how it's done. I can't flutter tongue either, so maybe it's a lost cause anyway. Miles used it often also, but here's an example by Lex French, a great player out of Montreal, at 1:14. Anyone know how to do this? Thanks!

https://youtu.be/RUSv7kLbdQA?t=1m14s
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's some great trumpet playing right there! Wow! Kudos to Lex French! I'll be visiting Montreal later this year, maybe I can catch him there.

I learned to do this effect when transcribing some Miles solos. I've heard Wynton and Chet do it as well. What I do is actually pull the horn away from my face a little bit so the pitch doesn't really slot and then put the horn back in place and the note sort of "scoops" up into the slot. So it's almost like a super-delayed hand vibrato, if that makes any sense. You're going from zero to normal pressure, in other words.

So it's like you're just doing a normal lip slur from bottom to top note, but you pull the horn from your face a little on the bottom note so it doesn't really slot and then you put the horn back to normal when you scoop up to the top pitch.

You can do it one of two ways. If it's in the key, you can pick an open valve note (low C for instance) and keep scooping from that note up to your ascending scale. Or you can just keep your valves at the target pitches and scoop up from the lower partial up to your chosen notes. Both work, you'll have to find out which is best for the particular key and line you're playing in.

I hope this makes sense! Futz around with it a little while. It's a second-nature effect for me now, I use it all the time on ballads (I like to do it on the ascending scale in "Polka Dots & Moonbeams for instance).
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stick your tongue right between your teeth, and you'll get that sound.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll give both those suggestions a try. Thanks!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Working on it now!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a thought, but watching that vid, he's clearly put in a ton of time in the woodshed working on his playing. As a result, he's built and developed the technique to allow him to be fully expressive in how he's playing, which includes articulation.

There are no shortcuts - it's going to take time in the woodshed, fine tuning your technique and finding your own voice, which includes the ability to alter your articulation sounds to what you want them to be. Sometimes the best method to learn how to do something is with careful observation through self-experimentation in the practice room.
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